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Post by Tbilisi on Jan 21, 2004 9:07:07 GMT -5
 Perhaps hard to tell from a painting, but that looks like depigmented Med(with perhaps some other admixture) too me. Am I right?  /"Tbilisi" |
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Post by herrx on Jan 21, 2004 11:54:42 GMT -5
Looks Noric or Keltic to me.
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Post by Berter on Jan 21, 2004 12:45:57 GMT -5
Perhaps hard to tell from a painting, but that looks like depigmented Med(with perhaps some other admixture) too me. Am I right? /"Tbilisi" Why are you telling she is med!?.Who is she tbilisi!....a spanish queen!?... QUEEN ISABEL OF SPAIN |
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Post by Tbilisi on Jan 21, 2004 12:48:55 GMT -5
She is Marchesa Elena Grimaldi from Genoa, nothern Italy. 17th century paiting by the realist A. van Dyck. Your pic is from the middle ages, can't you tell the diffrence between 17th century Baroque and Middle ages?  |
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Post by Berter on Jan 21, 2004 14:26:11 GMT -5
She is Marchesa Elena Grimaldi from Genoa, nothern Italy. 17th century paiting by the realist A. van Dyck. Your pic is from the middle ages, can't you tell the diffrence between 17th century Baroque and Middle ages? By posting this painting of queen isabel, I intended to give another example of depigmented "med"!... Your question can open a good thread in "any thing goes" section....Its not the issue here!...  |
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Post by xxx on Jan 21, 2004 14:34:13 GMT -5
Why are you telling she is med!?.Who is she tbilisi!....a spanish queen!?... QUEEN ISABEL OF SPAINThis is not a portrait of Queen Isabel made when she was alive. Kemp uses one similar to prove she was of visigothic blood. But he doesn't show any of King Ferran (Fernando, Ferdinand), her husband, with dark hair. And both belonged to the same royal family, the Trastamara. And, by the way, while Queen Isabel of Castilla is highly regarded for her strong will, King Ferran of Aragon is highly regarded for being an outstanding and intelligent governant. For Niccolo Machiavelo he was THE example of the Renaissance Prince. |
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Post by xxx on Jan 21, 2004 15:04:31 GMT -5
QUEEN ISABEL OF CASTILLA This is the only existing portrait of Queen Isabel de Castilla, made by Juan de Flandes, a Flemish paintor, circa 1485.
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Post by Berter on Jan 21, 2004 16:03:48 GMT -5
This is not a portrait of Queen Isabel made when she was alive. Kemp uses one similar to prove she was of visigothic blood. But he doesn't show any of King Ferran (Fernando, Ferdinand), her husband, with dark hair. And both belonged to the same royal family, the Trastamara. And, by the way, while Queen Isabel of Castilla is highly regarded for her strong will, King Ferran of Aragon is highly regarded for being an outstanding and intelligent governant. For Niccolo Machiavelo he was THE example of the Renaissance Prince. ------ 1. You may be wright telling the portrait of queen isabel I posted wasnt painted during his life!.....The one you posted is more plausible!.... 2. I have read Machiavelo's book (The prince); I think he took CESAR BORGIA as the perfect example of the renaissance prince!....  [glow=red,2,300]CESAR BORGIA[/glow]  I see also a CHE GUEVARA of the renaissance !!!...  |
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Post by Razmig on Jan 21, 2004 23:47:25 GMT -5
Perhaps hard to tell from a painting, but that looks like depigmented Med(with perhaps some other admixture) too me. Am I right? /"Tbilisi" That nose is hooked. How is she depigmented, or med? She lookes like an Alpinisized Dinaric. |
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Post by Tbilisi on Jan 22, 2004 2:21:55 GMT -5
I just tought Med due to that nose, but maybe I'm wrong..
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Post by Tbilisi on Jan 22, 2004 2:24:21 GMT -5
Alpinisized Dinaric? Theen she is of the same "race" as me.. but I don't know about that..
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Post by Razmig on Jan 22, 2004 2:49:35 GMT -5
Alpinisized Dinaric? Theen she is of the same "race" as me.. but I don't know about that.. I saw no Dinaric in you, Tbilisi. There is a possibility of Pontid (east med/armenoid) and alpine...but from that angle its hard to tell, it would seem she has a very wide skull, but that nose is deffinetly armenoid/dinaric. |
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Post by Tbilisi on Jan 22, 2004 3:58:20 GMT -5
I saw no Dinaric in you, Tbilisi. There is a possibility of Pontid (east med/armenoid) and alpine...but from that angle its hard to tell, it would seem she has a very wide skull, but that nose is deffinetly armenoid/dinaric. I have been classified as Dinarizied Alpine "all over the place", both at Skadi and here. I'm afraid your'e wrong Razmig. |
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Post by Dienekes on Jan 22, 2004 4:57:00 GMT -5
There is a possibility of Pontid (east med/armenoid) and alpine You have a reference for the Pontic type being "east med/armenoid" or is it just your opinion? |
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Post by Razmig on Jan 23, 2004 17:29:53 GMT -5
I have been classified as Dinarizied Alpine "all over the place", both at Skadi and here. I'm afraid your'e wrong Razmig. Most people online are just kids, heh. Dinaric only because of your fathers nose (these people know nothing about bone structure, ive seen so many people called Dinaric/Armenoid for the stupidest reasons). |
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