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Post by siciliano543 on Nov 23, 2005 0:53:09 GMT -5
no its because the female skull(yeah like females are supposed to be deformed) he found in georgia he thoght looked perfect and pray tell was she alpine then? if so then alpine is the best race ever then and we are all shit and ugly non progressive mongrels! man im studying this and i see racist and even nordicist tendecies cause the people he described in georgia do sound like a nordic type >>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Friedrich_Blumenbach and blumenbach was german ! GERMAN YES GERMAN THE SAME PEOPLE WHO INVENTED THE SO CALLED MASTER RACE!!! THEORY FROM ULTIMA THULE ETC ! hmmmmmm makes yu think
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Post by siciliano543 on Nov 23, 2005 0:54:59 GMT -5
NO BLUMENBACH WAS A NORDICIST NOT ME! I EVEN THINK HE INFLUENCED HITLER AND HE DESCRIBED GEORGIANS AS FAIREST PEOPLE! WHO RETAINED THEIR FARINESS MORE THEN ANYONE ELSE IN ANCIENT TIMES! THIS SOUNDS LIKE A FUKING FAIR NORDIC TYPE HE DESCRIBED! I THINK HITLER READ BLUMENBACH AND ITHER SHIT AND HE EQUATED IT WITH ARYANS IE NORDIC PEOPLE!
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Post by siciliano543 on Nov 23, 2005 1:01:19 GMT -5
"In Blumenbach's day, physical characteristics like skin color, cranial profile, etc., went hand in hand with declarations of group character and aptitude. The "fairness" and relatively high brows of "caucasians" were held to be apt physical expressions of a loftier mentality and a more generous spirit." FAIR SKIN HIGH BROWS=CORDED TYPE! SO CORDED IS THE BEST RACE THEN? ! I GUESS PRODIGAL SON WAS RIGHT THEN? EASTERN EUROPEAN TYPE NORDICS WITH HIGH BROWS SKULLS AND FAIR SKIN ARE THE MASTER RACE LOL
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Post by lolls on Nov 23, 2005 13:43:25 GMT -5
My goodness - is anyone really THAT confused about the difference between physical beauty ideals and a "master race"? Look, name a world leader or someone who invented something that completely changed the world, worldwide - and tell me how many beauty pageants you think they'll win.
It's just plain stupid to get offended by some anthropologist finding a specimen of bone structure "perfect" or most symmetrical or whatever.
It is also just plain stupid to pretend there isn't something recognized by humans as "physical beauty/attractiveness" and while there are many standards, there is also a general consensus. Angelina Jolie is recognized as a world class beauty around the globe. Margaret Thatcher was not. If you can't tell the difference in their physical beauty then you have more vodka than GOD.
There are different skull types, and traits can be categorized. That's just a fact. Getting pissy and politically correct about it won't change it.
Modern day Georgians DO seem more Armenoid than Caucasian. Not beauty queens on a global scale. So probably not what Blum. was looking at. No need to burst an artery about it.
Carry on =P
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 23, 2005 13:55:29 GMT -5
Modern day Georgians DO seem more Armenoid than Caucasian. Lolls, that's like saying Americans look more British than European. Armenoids are Caucasians, and in both the racial and geographical sense, Georgians are as Caucasian as it gets.
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Post by asdf on Nov 23, 2005 14:11:21 GMT -5
Caucasians/Armenians are more Caucasid than Armenid, not that that really has anything to do with anything.
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Post by lolls on Nov 23, 2005 15:32:23 GMT -5
Okay, then when Joe Blow of the general population (or someone newbie like me) uses the term Caucasian - and we are not referring to anyone with common features in the Georgian population - what is the proper term for what we refer to as Caucasian (nordic??) - by that I would not include the prominent noses or more aggressive bone structure found in the Georgian population and classed as Armenid/oid. Would it be the other inhabitants of the Caucus region (Cicassian or something - I can't find the term quick enough).
*** Guess who will be reading through post after post on this board to see examples of facial/racial types?? I love homework!***
Thanks in advance - it is hard to avoid confusion here - but I am muddling through it. And no one gets any points for confusing me further because it won't be hard to do lol.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 23, 2005 17:02:09 GMT -5
Caucasians/Armenians are more Caucas id than Armenid, not that that really has anything to do with anything. That's true, but I usually don't use Armenoid and Armenid interchangeably, because the latter implies something specific whereas the former is more like a category. I see Armenoids (Asiatic Taurids) as consisting of Armenids Proper (Middle Eastern Armenoids), Kaukasids/Mtebids (Caucasus Armenoids), Anatolids (Anatolian Armenoids), and Pamirids (Central Asian Armenoids). Not sure about where the Armenids end and Mtebids begin part, but I think that's about right. And then there are the other mixed forms like Assyrid and whatnot. These terms really can go on forever. Okay, then when Joe Blow of the general population (or someone newbie like me) uses the term Caucasian - and we are not referring to anyone with common features in the Georgian population - what is the proper term for what we refer to as Caucasian (nordic??) - by that I would not include the prominent noses or more aggressive bone structure found in the Georgian population and classed as Armenid/oid. Would it be the other inhabitants of the Caucus region (Cicassian or something - I can't find the term quick enough). I'm not quite sure what you're asking so I don't know how to answer.
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Post by asdf on Nov 23, 2005 18:14:19 GMT -5
Armenians Taurids are the worst to represent Armenids, so it doesn't make any sense. It's like Coon wasn't paying attention to what they actually looked like. I'm not complaining. Well, yes, I am, because it confused me at first. So I think it's better this way.
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Post by Miguel Antunes on Nov 24, 2005 16:09:24 GMT -5
Rephrase: He named Caucasoid after the Caucasians because he thought they were the BEST examples of the morphology, not because they were the master race, you idiot. He also thought they were handsome, but that is besides the point. No, caucasian didnt exist then He said they were the most beautiful skulls he ever seen so he ssaid "they had to be where the caucasians originated" Racist roots from the start Caucasian didn´t exist them? So what the f*ck did they called the people that lived in the Caucasus? Or did those montains get their name from the caucasian race? I guess you never heard of the tale of Prometheus... And why are nords the most caucasian? From what I know...the first "whites" were cro magnoid..and not that much depigmented... And the Aryans probably didn´t look like nords either...
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Post by Springa on Nov 25, 2005 8:26:21 GMT -5
Ending sentences with yo! doesn't sound very caucasian to me.
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Post by penetratorx on Nov 26, 2005 7:03:00 GMT -5
I've always thought of ppl from the caucasus as a fairly ugly race but the singer Katie Melua who is of Georgian blood but moved to England as a child is cute.
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Post by attis on Nov 28, 2005 1:20:44 GMT -5
There is a handsome Georgian male in the Living Races of Man by Coon. You should take a look. Or if someone has it, maybe they could post it?
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Post by Springa on Nov 29, 2005 7:34:56 GMT -5
When people start discussing seriously who's the "most beautiful", as if it was an objective thing, when people start writing whole posts in capitals, when people start mixing the caucasian race with north euros. That's when a topic has been destroyed and should be thrown in the dumpster.
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Post by eufrenio on Nov 29, 2005 8:22:40 GMT -5
Don´t worry, Sicialian Moor/siciliano543 (AKA Tony Morello) has been banned.
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