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Post by yigal on Nov 17, 2005 16:02:47 GMT -5
and if u think the zohar is fake u are an idiot and an apikores Come now, you can't seriously believe that the 6 million Jews who perished in the holocaust were reincarnations of the souls of sinners this is the sort of nonsense I am talking about don't tell that to all the victims families, don't tell that to my relatives or we shall all be heretics for sure. where the f*ck are you getting that from thats not in the zohar, your an idiot, go to hell, and it looks like your trying to take a stab at the Holy Rav, Ovadia yosef, well hes a living sage his wisdom is infanatley wiser than yours, the Zohar never states any such thing and if your trying to make reincarnation alien to judaism to bad because its ingrained in it, every schoolboy knows all the jews (including converts) are Reincarnations of those assembled at sinai, the converts are just misplaced souls in wrong bodys
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Post by zathuras on Nov 17, 2005 16:54:24 GMT -5
Come now, you can't seriously believe that the 6 million Jews who perished in the holocaust were reincarnations of the souls of sinners this is the sort of nonsense I am talking about don't tell that to all the victims families, don't tell that to my relatives or we shall all be heretics for sure. where the f*ck are you getting that from thats not in the zohar, your an idiot, go to hell, and it looks like your trying to take a stab at the Holy Rav, Ovadia yosef, well hes a living sage his wisdom is infanatley wiser than yours, the Zohar never states any such thing and if your trying to make reincarnation alien to judaism to bad because its ingrained in it, every schoolboy knows all the jews (including converts) are Reincarnations of those assembled at sinai, the converts are just misplaced souls in wrong bodys I never said that specifically was in the zohar. I was implying that Mr. Obadiah said it. And its not me that took offence, all the survivors and families of survivors of the shoah did so take it up with them. So you got hundreds of thousands of jews mad at him. Reincarnation is not central to jewish thought whatsoever. Its a Qabbalistic concept. Pure fact. Its from the Zohar not the Torah.
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Post by yigal on Nov 18, 2005 1:27:40 GMT -5
where the f*ck are you getting that from thats not in the zohar, your an idiot, go to hell, and it looks like your trying to take a stab at the Holy Rav, Ovadia yosef, well hes a living sage his wisdom is infanatley wiser than yours, the Zohar never states any such thing and if your trying to make reincarnation alien to judaism to bad because its ingrained in it, every schoolboy knows all the jews (including converts) are Reincarnations of those assembled at sinai, the converts are just misplaced souls in wrong bodys I never said that specifically was in the zohar. I was implying that Mr. Obadiah said it. And its not me that took offence, all the survivors and families of survivors of the shoah did so take it up with them. So you got hundreds of thousands of jews mad at him. Reincarnation is not central to jewish thought whatsoever. Its a Qabbalistic concept. Pure fact. Its from the Zohar not the Torah. Hey idiot, its found in the gemarah and mishnah too as well as in midrash, and if you knew anything about that you would know, but your views of judaism seem to be passed thru a koffer-friendly filter, Apikores
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 18, 2005 1:42:39 GMT -5
Are 1/8 Jews liable for Israeli citizenship or does the cutoff point end with 1/4 Jews.I don't think 1/8 Jews were considered Jews in Nazi Germany but I could be wrong.
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Post by yigal on Nov 18, 2005 2:44:54 GMT -5
Are 1/8 Jews liable for Israeli citizenship or does the cutoff point end with 1/4 Jews.I don't think 1/8 Jews were considered Jews in Nazi Germany but I could be wrong. 1/4th is cutoff, however i am eligible for citezenship and will be taking it soon
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Post by zathuras on Nov 18, 2005 9:52:51 GMT -5
I never said that specifically was in the zohar. I was implying that Mr. Obadiah said it. And its not me that took offence, all the survivors and families of survivors of the shoah did so take it up with them. So you got hundreds of thousands of jews mad at him. Reincarnation is not central to jewish thought whatsoever. Its a Qabbalistic concept. Pure fact. Its from the Zohar not the Torah. Hey idiot, its found in the gemarah and mishnah too as well as in midrash, and if you knew anything about that you would know, but your views of judaism seem to be passed thru a koffer-friendly filter, Apikores Point is most jews are repulsed by such a ridiculous claim made by that old man. Barak himself was upset. Does that make him and half of Israeli heretics?
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 18, 2005 10:05:32 GMT -5
is afterlife a jewish belief?
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Post by zathuras on Nov 18, 2005 10:26:38 GMT -5
is afterlife a jewish belief? yes, but its not the same as the christian version
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Post by zathuras on Nov 18, 2005 10:32:28 GMT -5
also the jewish concept of afterlife has itself changed throughout time and not all jews share the same beliefs today even.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 18, 2005 10:56:05 GMT -5
If its true that Hitler was 1/4 Jewish than that would have made him more Jewish than Yigal.I bet you would kill yourself if the most Anti-Semetic person in the world was actually more biologically Jewish than you, man would that be irony or what.
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Post by zathuras on Nov 18, 2005 12:13:31 GMT -5
If its true that Hitler was 1/4 Jewish than that would have made him more Jewish than Yigal.I bet you would kill yourself if the most Anti-Semetic person in the world was actually more biologically Jewish than you, man would that be irony or what. It doesn't matter though. Hitler might have been a quarter (although might not have been), it wouldn't make him jewish. If Yigal is Jew by conversion than he will always be more jewish than someone whose grandmother might have been jewish. Yigal is Jew, Hitler is not (no matter what trace of jewish ancestry he had). The only way hitler would be jewish is if his mom was.
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Post by yigal on Nov 18, 2005 15:42:18 GMT -5
If its true that Hitler was 1/4 Jewish than that would have made him more Jewish than Yigal.I bet you would kill yourself if the most Anti-Semetic person in the world was actually more biologically Jewish than you, man would that be irony or what. well yeah but if it goes into Hebrewness than a person whos 1/4 Ashkenaz and a person whos 1/8th Sephardic are about the same since the formula for ashkenaz is ruffley 1/2 and 1/2,
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Post by asdf on Nov 22, 2005 19:01:16 GMT -5
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Why gothic chicks?
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