In Defence of the Jews and Others... Feb 4, 2006 16:54:26 GMT -5
Post by dukeofpain on Feb 4, 2006 16:54:26 GMT -5
Look, the "West" has many definitions. Western + Central Europe more or less covers them all though, and Russia is included in none of them. And that's what I'm talking about - Bolshevism. That's Marxism Soviet style. Not French, not English - Russian.
Again, you seem to be restricting Western Culture and Western thought to geography. Ideas can permeate through geographical boundaries, you know.
There was Communst activity all over Europe at the time. The groups were not isolated, but communicated with each other and most of the time cooperated.
How can that be when the concept of the West existed before Soviet Russia.
I did say "Bolshevism/Communism", but I just meant Bolshevism and where Communism took off, which was never in the West.
Where Communism took off has no bearing. Communism is a western idea/concept.
Tersely, Bolshevism is the application of Communism by Bolsheviks in Russia/SU. Communism and Bolshevism are not comparable notions. If Communism is an idea, then Bolshevism is that idea being carried out. How can Bolshevism not be Western, when it's a manifestation of a Western idea? The Bolshevik's themselves were not un-Western. In fact, they were a product of Western ideas. Again, the fact that their ancestry did not lie in Western or Central Europe has no bearing.
Communism is not unlike Christianity, and is likewise not a product of the west. Both were subversive decadent movements that acted as a mechanism to combat Jewish bondage and anti-semitism.
Christianity transformed Roman civic duty into Christian emaciation and thusly weakened it to such an extent that it capitulated to hordes of inferiors. Communism attempted to transform European nationalism[which inevitably manifested as anti-semitism], into a pan-European, or rather world, emaciated monolith, albeit unsuccessfully.
Ultimately the former worked, and jews are no long at the behest of Cesar, though it of course came with a certain cost, as it probably had likewise in places like Assyria or Egypt, as it was evolving. Though I reckon the costs were acceptable. Whereas, Jewish communist ideology vs. European nationalist Ideology, proved absolutely disastrous [kind of] certainly more in the Jewish psyche, as opposed to events hence.
Though this was in direct consequence of Jewish subversion; which is identifiable causality. History is made up by tangible worldly cause and effect. What the romans called perpetual servitus Judeorum[perpetual Jewish servitude] is not exempt from it.