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Post by anodyne on Dec 20, 2005 20:27:59 GMT -5
WHO? name someone. Now I am angry because you're evading. Of whom are are you speaking of, Stella? I think you know that if you give a name we can check that person's history and your claim will be proven wrong. It's a lot easier to say "the Spaniards at Dodona think this" then to actually get into specifics of what each one of us has done in the past that would prove your point.
Go ahead and start with me.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 20, 2005 20:57:03 GMT -5
I've only seen this happen on Stormfront and Vanguard where when they are questioning the Whiteness of most Southern Europeans because most of them don't have fair facial features than some insecure Southern European poster will come in saying oh I am Spanish or oh I am Italian and I have blonde hair and blue eyes and so do most of my family members and most of the time we get confused for being Germans or Scandinavians more than we do Spanish or Italians in fact we never get confused for being Southern Europeans. I never saw this here on Dodona because I think most Med posters are proud of who they are and are not insecure about themselves and don't have to make up bullshit lies that they are just as fair as the blondest Finn.Its the Med posters at the racist sites like Stormfront and Vanguard who are the insecure ones who want to suck on Nordic/Nazi cocks.
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 20, 2005 23:17:21 GMT -5
And that hurts you. You care so much about what some bunch of moronic hill billies say about you.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 20, 2005 23:28:38 GMT -5
I remember when Hispanic magazine interviewed the half Spanish and half Italian Alfred Molina and he said he doesen't consider himself Hispanic he said he applies that label the triracial Latin Americans of African,Spanish,and Amerindian ancestry.
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Post by Toasty on Dec 20, 2005 23:33:37 GMT -5
I remember when Hispanic magazine interviewed the half Spanish and half Italian Alfred Molina and he said he doesen't consider himself Hispanic he said he applies that label the triracial Latin Americans of African,Spanish,and Amerindian ancestry. That's a pretty ignorant thing to say, he's the epitome of a true Latin.
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 20, 2005 23:34:12 GMT -5
I don't really need to tell you who dedicate a great deal of his time, to prove us, that all spaniards are fair and blond haired, and who don't. You just have to look at the photos on the first page of this thread, to realize what I am talking about. All we need to do, is talking about spaniards to get flooded by pictures of red-haired and blond haired spaniards.
Yes I can understand what you said above, but, on the other hand, we don't either see much of you dispelling the false claim that all spaniards and italians look like ambrosini. We just see meds angry when someone post pictures of dark meds like the characters of the sopranos and Antonio Banderas.
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 20, 2005 23:51:58 GMT -5
WHO? name someone. Now I am angry because you're evading. Of whom are are you speaking of, Stella? I think you know that if you give a name we can check that person's history and your claim will be proven wrong. It's a lot easier to say "the Spaniards at Dodona think this" then to actually get into specifics of what each one of us has done in the past that would prove your point. Go ahead and start with me. ;D Man, I can't understand why you take these things too seriously.? Angry? cool off dude. I won't give names, because it's not my habit to talk about other dodonites. Such things can only start a flame war, and I have no time for this.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 20, 2005 23:59:43 GMT -5
Toasty he didn't say he isn't Latin,he sais he isn't Hispanic which is true since remember he lives in America and in America Hispanic=Latin American not somebody who was born in Great Britain and has an Italian parent and a Spanish parent.
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Post by stella22 on Dec 21, 2005 0:25:25 GMT -5
There is no reason to start an angry debate. I've noticed this phenomenon with the Spaniards and apparently I'm not the only one. There is no reason to get all defensive.
Maybe there a several causal factors:
1) Southern Europeans have traditionally been poorer and less industrialized
2) Spanish people are always being associated with or confused for the even poorer and mixed raced continent of south/central america
*Italians haven't had to deal with #2 so they don't show as much anger and appear to have better self-esteem- though they to show signs of low self-esteem
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 21, 2005 0:39:13 GMT -5
Stella2 why are you so anti-Southern European.
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Post by stella22 on Dec 21, 2005 0:57:11 GMT -5
Stella2 why are you so anti-Southern European. I'm not at all. I'm Southern European myself, but I've noticed that many of the Meds here seem to have some sort of low self esteem. It upsets me to see such great people with such a lack of pride. I just want to understand where this lack of pride is coming from and why. There must be some reason.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 21, 2005 1:04:01 GMT -5
Please, tell us. Because I don't who you're speak of? You mean ndrthl? I'm not even sure if he's a Spaniard. He posted photos of three Spanish models after you mentioned how Spaniards tend to post photos of "nordic" looking spaniards. I took it as a joke since he posted not long after you stated how Spaniards on this forum post nordic looking Spanish models. In another thread he compared a dark Spanish soccer player with a dark Irish soccer. How one could consider that an attempt to prove that Spaniards on this forum believe that the Spanish population is mostly blond and fair haired is beyond me. I can't think think of any other examples regarding ndrthl in which he tried to present Spaniards as being nordic looking on average. Perhaps you can direct me to a thread.
ummm.... I have stated that Spaniards are darker than northern Europeans. I've stated that the majority of Spaniards have dark eyes (brown). I didn't realize I need to keep an eye out for people posting photos of nordic looking Spanish women. You act as if this forum is inundated with photos of blond, blue eyes Spaniards and it's not.
I don't see any anger. I simply see Spaniards who don't fit the typical Iberian looks state that Spain has variety of looks, which it does. There are Spaniards who burn under the sun (like myself) and then there are Spaniards who get a dark tan.
I don't usually get angry but I get annoyed often.
Feel free to PM me, then. Just keep the sexy talk to a minimum.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 21, 2005 1:07:07 GMT -5
Stella2 why are you so anti-Southern European. I'm not at all. I'm Southern European myself, but I've noticed that many of the Meds here seem to have some sort of low self esteem. It upsets me to see such great people with such a lack of pride. I just want to understand where this lack of pride is coming from and why. There must be some reason. Stella, so.. ummm..... Hooligan should lie about his light colored eyes and his over all look just to make you feel better? How is being confused for some other nationality or stating that Spain has some variety a "lack of med pride?" What the hell do you mean by Med pride, exactly? that's just as weird as nordic pride.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 21, 2005 1:12:11 GMT -5
Even though most Spaniards have brown eyes,light eyes is still more common among Spaniards than it is among the Portuguese.Probably 10% or less of Portugese people have light eyes.
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Post by stella22 on Dec 21, 2005 1:17:50 GMT -5
I'm not at all. I'm Southern European myself, but I've noticed that many of the Meds here seem to have some sort of low self esteem. It upsets me to see such great people with such a lack of pride. I just want to understand where this lack of pride is coming from and why. There must be some reason. Stella, so.. ummm..... Hooligan should lie about his light colored eyes and his over all look just to make you feel better? How is being confused for some other nationality or stating that Spain has some variety a "lack of med pride?" What the hell do you mean by Med pride, exactly? that's just as weird as nordic pride. It seems as if you've misunderstood just about everything I wrote. Of course Hooligan shouldn't lie about his eyes. What does that have to do with anything else I wrote. Argue all you want, but you know that most of these threads aren't about showing Med variety. It is usually about showing Nord-like Meds. For what reason, I don't know. You tell me. Having pride means being confident and has nothing to do with trying to prove superiority.
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