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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 1, 2005 14:45:40 GMT -5
...why doesn't the B.B.C. tell the whole story:
Cousins jailed for racist murder The racist killers of black teenager Anthony Walker have been told they must serve minimum terms of 17 and 23 years. Anthony, 18, was killed with an ice axe at McGoldrick Park in Huyton, Merseyside, on 29 July.
Michael Barton, 17, of Boundary Road, Huyton, who was found guilty of his murder on Wednesday, will serve a minimum of 17 years and eight months.
Paul Taylor, 20, of Elizabeth Road, Huyton, admitted murder and must serve at least 23 years and eight months.
On Thursday, Mr Justice Leveson told Taylor and Barton: "This was a racist attack of a type poisonous to any civilised society.
"In spite of your youth, deterrent sentences are vital."
You crept into the park with evil on your mind Mr Justice Leveson
"You took from Anthony Walker his most precious possession, that is to say his life and all it held for him. "He was a young man of enormous promise, lost in a moment.
"You have damaged forever the lives of those who loved him."
He told Barton, who was convicted on Wednesday, that although he did not wield the axe, he was jointly responsible for the murder.
He said: "This was a terrible incident and you played a full part in jointly bringing the ice axe to further your terrifying attack.
"You knew what you intended to do as you drove searching out your quarries and you crept into the park with evil on your mind."
On Wednesday Preston Crown Court, sitting in Liverpool, heard Barton shouted racist abuse at Anthony as he waited at a bus stop with cousin Marcus Binns and girlfriend, Louise Thompson.
The three walked away but Barton, whose brother is Manchester City footballer Joey Barton, and Taylor ambushed them near McGoldrick Park.
"The terror evident in Marcus Binns and Louise Thompson proves beyond all reasonable doubt that this was not simply two groups bumping into each other," Mr Justice Leveson continued.
"I am sure that the fear [the defendants] generated was deliberate and the plan was premeditated."
Marcus and Louise managed to escape but Taylor caught up with Anthony and drove the ice axe into his skull, Preston Crown Court, sitting in Liverpool heard.
Taylor pleaded guilty to murder but Barton, who denied the same charge, was convicted of the killing on the grounds he supplied the weapon and started the confrontation.
Outside court, Anthony's mother Gee Walker said she accepted the sentence and hoped Taylor and Barton would use their time behind bars to "reflect on what they've done".
"No amount of time, no sentence, no matter how long, it will not bring my son back," she added.
She said she "admired" Taylor for having expressed remorse at the murder.
Defence barrister Andrew Menary QC had told the judge in mitigation that Taylor was "horrified" by what he had done and wanted to apologise to the family.
'Long time'
"Surely his mum must have instilled some goodness in him for him to accept that he has done something wrong," Mrs Walker said.
Det Ch Supt Peter Currie, who led the murder investigation, said he was pleased with the sentences handed out.
"Whichever way you look at it, it's a long time, longer than the time either have been alive up to now," he said.
He blamed friends of Barton and Taylor for racist graffiti daubed in the park where Anthony died on Wednesday.
"It's so close in time to the verdict, you can only assume it's either friends or associates or supporters that is responsible."
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There is no question that this incident was a tragedy. Yet I wondered why these two racists decided to attack this particular boy. The news article, and its predecessors at the B.B.C., claim the attack was random and senseless, provoked by the attacker's comments. Yet I went back and found out that the boy's girlfriend was White, and the picture became clearer, as an interracial couple is the most inflamming situation a racist can come across.
Here lies the motive. I wondered why no one thought to mention it? Then I realized: if the B.B.C. states the possible motive, then it will have to admit that most of the U.K.'s interracial relationships (Black and White) are Black males with White females.
Then of course, racists reading the article would see the two men as heroes against miscegenation, etc. It deprives the racists of any sort of purpose or cause. Interesting strategy...what are your thoughts?
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Post by ndrthl on Dec 1, 2005 14:51:04 GMT -5
The situation will only get worse. Numerous incidents have been taking place on a regular basis. Eventually, whites are expected to become a minority in the UK: UK whites will be minority by 2100 Special report: race issues in the UK Anthony Browne Sunday September 3, 2000 The Observer Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100. It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010. In the early 1950s there were only a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the UK. By 1991 that had risen to 3 million - 6 per cent of the population. The population of ethnic minorities has been growing at between 2 and 4 per cent a year. Net immigration has been running at record levels, with 185,000 newcomers last year. Government forecasts suggest that immigration on its own will be responsible for half the growth of the British population over the next couple of decades. New immigrants, who are on average younger than the population at large, also tend to have higher fertility rates. In contrast, the population of white British citizens is static. Their fertility rate is very low - at under 2 children per woman - and there is overall emigration of British citizens. The analysis of the figures showed that if the population of ethnic minorities grows at 4 per cent a year, whites will become a minority before 2100. The demographer who made the calculation wished to remain anonymous for fear of accusations of racism. www.guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,2763,363777,00.html#article_continue
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Post by brownoid on Dec 4, 2005 17:04:02 GMT -5
The situation will only get worse. Numerous incidents have been taking place on a regular basis. Eventually, whites are expected to become a minority in the UK: UK whites will be minority by 2100 Special report: race issues in the UK Anthony Browne Sunday September 3, 2000 The Observer Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100. It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010. In the early 1950s there were only a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the UK. By 1991 that had risen to 3 million - 6 per cent of the population. The population of ethnic minorities has been growing at between 2 and 4 per cent a year. Net immigration has been running at record levels, with 185,000 newcomers last year. Government forecasts suggest that immigration on its own will be responsible for half the growth of the British population over the next couple of decades. New immigrants, who are on average younger than the population at large, also tend to have higher fertility rates. In contrast, the population of white British citizens is static. Their fertility rate is very low - at under 2 children per woman - and there is overall emigration of British citizens. The analysis of the figures showed that if the population of ethnic minorities grows at 4 per cent a year, whites will become a minority before 2100. The demographer who made the calculation wished to remain anonymous for fear of accusations of racism. www.guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,2763,363777,00.html#article_continue Correct me if im wrong but isnt liverpool one of these uber-white cities in the UK? if this had happened in london, or specifically a black area like Brixton or Harlesden then it'd be worthwhile linking this to the increase of ethnic minorities in the UK. it sounds to me that the lack of non-whites in liverpool is what caused these bigots to attack the few non-whites that live there, because obviously these bigots thought they could incite racial abuse without any reprisals from the small black community there. there's a good saying, it goes... increase the base and keep it real!
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 4, 2005 17:09:41 GMT -5
Liverpool is over 95% White right.
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Post by merxa on Dec 4, 2005 17:12:43 GMT -5
The situation will only get worse. Numerous incidents have been taking place on a regular basis. Eventually, whites are expected to become a minority in the UK: UK whites will be minority by 2100 Special report: race issues in the UK Anthony Browne Sunday September 3, 2000 The Observer Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100. It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010. In the early 1950s there were only a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the UK. By 1991 that had risen to 3 million - 6 per cent of the population. The population of ethnic minorities has been growing at between 2 and 4 per cent a year. Net immigration has been running at record levels, with 185,000 newcomers last year. Government forecasts suggest that immigration on its own will be responsible for half the growth of the British population over the next couple of decades. New immigrants, who are on average younger than the population at large, also tend to have higher fertility rates. In contrast, the population of white British citizens is static. Their fertility rate is very low - at under 2 children per woman - and there is overall emigration of British citizens. The analysis of the figures showed that if the population of ethnic minorities grows at 4 per cent a year, whites will become a minority before 2100. The demographer who made the calculation wished to remain anonymous for fear of accusations of racism. www.guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,2763,363777,00.html#article_continue Correct me if im wrong but isnt liverpool one of these uber-white cities in the UK? if this had happened in london, or specifically a black area like Brixton or Harlesden then it'd be worthwhile linking this to the increase of ethnic minorities in the UK. it sounds to me that the lack of non-whites in liverpool is what caused these bigots to attack the few non-whites that live there, because obviously these bigots thought they could incite racial abuse without any reprisals from the small black community there. there's a good saying, it goes... increase the base and keep it real! 9reib9?
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Post by brownoid on Dec 4, 2005 17:32:31 GMT -5
btw, on a factual note, net in-migration to the UK for the latest period (i think 2004) is around 300,000. the real figures are something like 600,000 in-migrants, 300,000 out-migrants. but after you seperate British citizens, and immigrants that are from likely white countries. it comes to around 300,000 immigrants/year from Africa-South Asia-Middle East-Other Asia-Caribbean/Latin America. Then theres also non-whites from EU nations relocating to the UK (e.g. dutch-somalis, euro-tamils, and probably a ton of french-north africans if policy in France is headed the way i think it is), which probably doesnt amount to much at present perhaps 30,000/year, but will grow as the EU has more immigrants/minorities and becomes more interconnected. Then theres natural increase which should be around 1-3%/year (10-35%/decade - so anything from around 500,000 to 1,750,000 natural growth of the non-white minorities assumed at 5million at 2001). so that adds up to... from 2001 - 2011: nonwhite - non-EU immigration: 3million nonwhite EU migration to UK: 300,000 natural growth: ~1million racial mixing with whites: ~500,000 illegal immigration: 500,000-1million total: 4-5million increase conservatively i'd say the UK non-white population will go from around 5million (2001) to around 9million (2011). so the UK will go from 8% to 15% non-white over this period. England will still have the biggest share, and so will likely be a bit more non-white (15-18% non-white). still, however this is not to suggest that whites will become a minority any time soon. because... 1. a few decades down the line, the UK may decide it doesnt want immigrants at such a large scale. or may be primarily interested in Eastern european immigrants. 2. racial mixing would allow whites to absorb the non-whites pretty well, even if the non-whites accounted for 33% imo. the UK could pass for white Argentinian style, or even italian style. 3. by 2100, the UK may not even exist, and just be part of the wider EU (which could number 800m by then), so the UK being majority ethnic, wouldnt mean much, if Ukraine or Russia was majority white thus averaging the EU to be majority white.
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Post by ndrthl on Dec 5, 2005 7:30:34 GMT -5
www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,11374,1657392,00.html 'Racism? It's endemic here' On the streets of Huyton, scene of Anthony Walker's shocking murder, Mark Townsend discovers a lingering subculture of venom and violence Sunday December 4, 2005 The Observer They may never view it as justice. Hours earlier, news had filtered onto the uncompromising streets of Huyton that two of their own had been jailed for life. As the first flecks of rain fell upon east Liverpool's sprawling estates, a young white man spat his fury at the prison sentences handed to those who had murdered Anthony Walker with an ice-axe. 'It's a bit f*cking heavy,' he scowled, his features hidden beneath a tracksuit hood. 'People have murdered and got away with a couple of years.'He glanced up St Johns Road to the bus shelter where Anthony was called a 'nigger' by 17-year-old Michael Barton on the night of 29 July. The abuse would precipitate one of the most high-profile race murders in Britain, one that would open old wounds in a city with a tangled multicultural history. As with most hate-crime, a complex meld of causes and entrenched bigotry had been grotesquely articulated in a single, horrific moment. And such factors do not disappear overnight.Although Barton and Paul Taylor may be gone from the bleak streets of St Johns estate, their supporters remain. Among the huddled, hooded groups there seemed little remorse for Anthony, murdered at the precise spot in McGoldrick Park where the local teenagers had once congregated. Today a small pile of flowers on a narrow footpath marks their favourite hangout.Beside the bouquets, the Tarmac seems strangely darker. It was here that the council poured the chemicals that washed away the word 'nigger' sprayed there in the hour after Barton and his cousin, Taylor, were found guilty of murdering Anthony.It is as if the very ground where Anthony died is stained by racism. 'Racist around here? It's endemic, ground into the fabric,' said musician Neal while waiting for the 217 bus last Friday. 'The pro-killer brigade have already been up to where he was axed to protest with police at the length of the sentence.' He sighed and jabbed his finger at the Huyton Park, the red-bricked pub from whose car park Barton unleashed his stream of venom against Anthony moments before the attack. 'Go in there and you'll find out. But you'll end up in a plastic bag.'Tony Excell, who has monitored the city's race relations since the Toxteth riots of 1981, admits a brooding, malevolent racism exists among a disenfranchised white minority in Huyton. 'It's a massive problem,' he said. Others believe that Barton and Taylor would attack anyone they felt was an 'outsider'. At school, they bullied William Eborall because he was deemed too posh and Lee Caldwell, confined to a wheelchair during his childhood. Anthony defended them both. Kneeling at the spot where his best friend Anthony was murdered, 19-year-old Caldwell nodded to the grass behind where they had once played in more innocent days - Anthony, his two murderers and the rest of the lads. To the softly spoken Caldwell, Anthony may always remain the 'best person I ever met'.That most people in Huyton adored the black athlete who dreamt of becoming a lawyer is no secret. As night fell on Friday, a family entered McGoldrick Park and stopped in the gloom. Their young daughter ran forward and placed a statue of the Virgin Mary among the wreaths. It was a fitting gesture. Anthony's mother, Gee, had turned to God to forgive the murderers of her child. The killers, in turn, had only believed in a God-given right to terrorise.Three days before Barton and Taylor were found guilty, Daniel Taylor had wondered aloud whether Britain's cities could overcome the culture of violence among their disaffected youth. Exactly five years had passed since his 10-year-old-son Damilola was killed in south London. Speaking in the capital's Barbican Centre, Taylor described how 'Damilola lost his life because of enormous problems in our society'.Although Damilola's death is not officially classed as racially motivated, both murders possess striking parallels. Both victims were young, gifted and black. Both were stabbed in crime-ridden, poor communities; both families wanted the best for their sons. In doing so, one had moved from Nigeria to London, the other just three miles from Toxteth to Huyton.But long before Taylor made his speech, experts were warning that Huyton was edging towards a flashpoint. In the week before Anthony's death, race relation experts had met Merseyside police and Knowsley Borough Council, which covers Huyton, warning of a 'serious problem' brewing.Police logs reveal that, in the weeks around Anthony's death, racially motivated attacks had doubled in Knowsley compared to the previous summer. In the same week that Anthony was murdered by a 60cm ice-axe embedded 7cm into his skull, Angie Ncube was racially abused and stabbed in the eye by a burglar in her Liverpool home.That both attacks came within a month of the London bombs surprised no one. Between 7 July and 8 August the number of racially and religiously motivated attacks quadrupled in Merseyside with more than 200 calls. During the same period, Merseyside police reported an 87 per cent increase.Two months ago the Liverpool Daily Echo asked readers what they thought of the council's slogan 'world in one city'. One mother-of-six described how her family had endured 50 years of racial harassment. Another claimed Liverpool was more racist than the apartheid South Africa where he was raised. He had called police more than 180 times in six years as 'marauding, baying mobs attacked and stoned our home'. Excell is among those who remain baffled at the faltering progress of integration since the Toxteth riots. Liverpool's role in the slave trade cannot be overlooked, he concludes. In the hysterical hours that followed Anthony's death, Excell decided enough was enough. Within a week the articulate 40-year-old from Toxteth had helped form the Campaign Against Racial Terrorism. The idea had been with him for years. 'Every time I go into the city centre it never ceases to amaze me: I don't see black faces working in the department stores. I don't see anybody looking like me,' he said.Other facts support his case. Of Liverpool's 5,500 teachers, fewer than 40 are black. The city has just a single black councillor; few council workers have key decision-making jobs, according to Excell.Securing influential positions in the civic interest was never likely to have seduced Barton and Taylor, but what had inspired them to commit such a murder? Although the two must be viewed as part of an unrepresentative minority, some point to Huyton's reputation as a white ghetto. Just 2,100 of the 150,600 residents of the Borough of Knowsley are from ethnic minorities. While that eradicated competition for jobs and housing between the two communities, those like Anthony became both highly vulnerable and visible. Deprivation, too, inevitably played its part. Huyton is found within the third most deprived area of the UK. Unemployment among its young men stands higher than one in four. Odds are stacked high against young men from the St Johns estate. Barton was universally considered slow; Taylor was expelled from school aged 14. Both had accepted theft as their principal vocation. And they liked a fight. Locals speak of 'Asbo central', where men 'put their title on the line' after a few bevvies.Just two miles from McGoldrick Park lie the suburbs of Gateacre and Woolton. Here, residents talk of a mixed harmonious community. Sheila Hanlon, 48, smiled: 'We've got no problems around here. Everyone gets on regardless of colour.' Even on the St Johns estate, a number of homes have neatly tended flower beds and colourful hanging baskets. The Butty Box does a roaring trade with its its clientele of disarming, chatty residents who, though sickened by the murder, remain too scared to be named. An Irish mother wept so hard her shoulders began heaving as she tried to describe how she knew Anthony.The police are roundly praised for their efforts, but tension remains. Those who scrawled 'nigger' in the park are still at large. For now, the only words at the murder scene are within a note buried among the flowers. Its message, delivered in shaky, smudged Biro, says: 'It's not black, it's not white. A young boy lost his life here. For God's sake will they understand?'
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Post by idiamin on Dec 5, 2005 16:46:24 GMT -5
we're gonna take over liverpool you watch. my 2nd cousin onomagabonumagabumole helps to run a people smuggling operation in nigeria. he's helping to bringing over 1000's of blacks every month to liverpool and manchester. so the BASE in liverpool is gonna rapidly increase now, and we're using the nigerian 401 scams to finance our black naija sistas in liverpool to keep producing babies. in 10 years time liverpool will rise to atleast 10% black, and manchester 15% black. we have similar operations going on in other UK cities, and other European capitals. ;D
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 6, 2005 2:38:38 GMT -5
Yes. I'm sure that Nigerians (and those from other African states), suffering from poverty, famine, disease, and war, would like nothing better than to have more babies they cannot feed, just so you can say that the Black population is increasing. Great logic. These mothers would just love to make the arduous trek to Europe so they can take it over...Right.
Best you go study human geography.
And another thing...Idi Amin was a despot propped up by the West who murdered his own people. The Israelis outsmarted him, and the idiot eventually had to seek asylum with the Arabs. A real African Black hero.
Perhaps you should take after Patrice Lumumba instead fool.
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Post by Trog on Dec 6, 2005 18:55:30 GMT -5
Yes. I'm sure that Nigerians (and those from other African states), suffering from poverty, famine, disease, and war, would like nothing better than to have more babies they cannot feed, just so you can say that the Black population is increasing. Great logic. These mothers would just love to make the arduous trek to Europe so they can take it over...Right. Best you go study human geography. And another thing...Idi Amin was a despot propped up by the West who murdered his own people. The Israelis outsmarted him, and the idiot eventually had to seek asylum with the Arabs. A real African Black hero. Perhaps you should take after Patrice Lumumba instead fool. Haha - you downed him in true Begbie fashion. It's also fair to note that Africa, despite being the oldest and richest (in terms of natural resources) continent in the world, is still impoverished when it comes to it's own population. It's population is equal to Europe. This may be due to famine, disease etc, but also to genocide, civil war and what seems a natural propensity of blacks to commit violence against each other. This trend continues even in western society. Black on black crime kills more blacks than any racist attack.
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Post by tatus on Dec 6, 2005 19:07:53 GMT -5
Russia has one of the highest crime rates in the world murder etc, and it is nearly 100% white. Isn't this white on white crime? ?
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Post by Trog on Dec 6, 2005 19:16:03 GMT -5
Russia has one of the highest crime rates in the world murder etc, and it is nearly 100% white. Isn't this white on white crime? ? Hey, the Eastern Europeans coming over to Britain are some of the most dodgiest, conniving crooks out there! So yes, white-on-white crime exists - and in large numbers. But the black community expects some special reverence when a white murders someone black. Race crimes, like the slaying of the young boy in Liverpool are very rare in comparison to black on black crimes. Yet blacks prefer for their own crime/violence rates not to be analyzed or advertised.
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 6, 2005 19:46:43 GMT -5
Russia has one of the highest crime rates in the world murder etc, and it is nearly 100% white. Isn't this white on white crime? ? I think the point is that crime is far less racially motivated then the mass media makes it out to be. Some ethnic/racial groups may be more prone to violence than others e.g. the Phillipines is a corrupt society, according to economic analysis and will remain poor until this changes. White-on-White and Black-on-Black crime is immensely greater than interracial crime. The only thing that can be gained from analyzing interracial crime is whether or not one group is more PRONE to crime i.e. ratios of White criminals to Black ones.
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 6, 2005 19:49:53 GMT -5
The original point I was trying to make was that the murder was probably motivated by the assailants seen Walker with a White girl, as nothing is so apt to anger xenophobes as interracial couples.
However, if the B.B.C. mentioned that motive, then it might give the assailants' supporters a kind of justification or a reason, so they keep it at being a senseless slaying.
In the interracial couples ratios, there is no question that Black men have more relationships with White women than White men do with Black women. In the past I have argued that this is due to the White woman being seen as a trophy for Black males insecure with their skin colour.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 6, 2005 21:14:20 GMT -5
That and their white scanks on crack!
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