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Post by Trog on Jun 28, 2005 20:38:33 GMT -5
At the very edge of Europe, to what was the end of the world in antiquity, the Scottish landscape represents a last vestige of Celtic culture........  Often wild but unspoilt, the land is fashioned by nature but yet clothed in a distinctive culture....  .......our land is littered with castles and historic sites....  ...often these involved battles, to which we still celebrate in memory this day............  ...battles to preserve our culture, our destiny.....  ...even our religion....though it caused more war and more division.....  ...but through the ages............  ...our sense of community grew stronger.......  ...and at last we could live in peace........  And relative prosperity.............  But now we face a new threat.................  It's obscene! |
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Post by nockwasright on Jun 29, 2005 3:51:18 GMT -5
Wonderful pics, must visit Scotland.
Ah, what's wrong: the fact you see a real and quasi mystical relationship between the territory, the castles, the people of the past, the Scots, you. That's all in your head.
I see beautiful landscapes of a country and then a tacky plastic Buddha (is it Buddha?) that would be ugly everywhere, in China as in Norway.
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Post by cocacola on Jun 29, 2005 4:46:24 GMT -5
yes, the pictures dont work.
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Post by Ilmatar on Jun 29, 2005 6:16:21 GMT -5
I went to Scotland in 1994 and loved the place and the people. However, the only decent meals I had during my 2 weeks stay there were in Indian restaurants. Therefore, quoting Trainspotting, I'm very glad that those w*****s colonized the country, made it a part of an Empire and exposed it to some foreign culinary influences. Otherwise I would have starved.
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Post by zemelmete on Jun 29, 2005 6:23:17 GMT -5
Great pictures! Scottland obviously is very beautiful land.
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Post by Trog on Jun 29, 2005 11:07:31 GMT -5
I went to Scotland in 1994 and loved the place and the people. However, the only decent meals I had during my 2 weeks stay there were in Indian restaurants. Therefore, quoting Trainspotting, I'm very glad that those w*****s colonized the country, made it a part of an Empire and exposed it to some foreign culinary influences. Otherwise I would have starved. Scotland had never been colonized by England, nor been part of an English Empire. "Trainspotting" and it's gloomy perception was more inaccurate than many of the fables seen in "Braveheart". If one wishes to adopt a socialists/nationalists view then yes, Scotland was "sold for English gold". It was a Union, a Union with a Scot as its very first king and a union that created the British Empire and the Industrial Revolution. At least there was peace, if not genuine friendship with England, something Scotland itself agreed upon in order to remain Protestant. Regarding your food palette, it really depends on how much money you have to spend I'm afraid- where abouts did you stay? |
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Post by Trog on Jun 29, 2005 11:46:00 GMT -5
Wonderful pics, must visit Scotland. Ah, what's wrong: the fact you see a real and quasi mystical relationship between the territory, the castles, the people of the past, the Scots, you. That's all in your head. I see beautiful landscapes of a country and then a tacky plastic Buddha (is it Buddha?) that would be ugly everywhere, in China as in Norway. No, I see an alien concept polluting this ancient Scottish landscape and our culture. It simply doesn't belong here.    |
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Post by cocacola on Jun 29, 2005 15:33:30 GMT -5
Thats beautiful. |
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jun 29, 2005 20:40:32 GMT -5
Why is the Italic building Alien? The Romans where in Caldonia!
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Post by Ilmatar on Jun 30, 2005 1:00:32 GMT -5
Scotland had never been colonized by England, nor been part of an English Empire. "Trainspotting" and it's gloomy perception was more inaccurate than many of the fables seen in "Braveheart". If one wishes to adopt a socialists/nationalists view then yes, Scotland was "sold for English gold". It was a Union, a Union with a Scot as its very first king and a union that created the British Empire and the Industrial Revolution. At least there was peace, if not genuine friendship with England, something Scotland itself agreed upon in order to remain Protestant. Regarding your food palette, it really depends on how much money you have to spend I'm afraid- where abouts did you stay? No need to take an offence here.  Remember that I'm coming from a country that was "colonized" both by Swedes and Russians, whose food culture has recently been ridiculed by the Italian premier and which is known in the World through the films by Aki Kaurismäki. And BTW, I stayed in the Highlands and was not in the budget. |
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Post by Trog on Jun 30, 2005 1:09:05 GMT -5
Scotland had never been colonized by England, nor been part of an English Empire. "Trainspotting" and it's gloomy perception was more inaccurate than many of the fables seen in "Braveheart". If one wishes to adopt a socialists/nationalists view then yes, Scotland was "sold for English gold". It was a Union, a Union with a Scot as its very first king and a union that created the British Empire and the Industrial Revolution. At least there was peace, if not genuine friendship with England, something Scotland itself agreed upon in order to remain Protestant. Regarding your food palette, it really depends on how much money you have to spend I'm afraid- where abouts did you stay? No need to take an offence here. Remember that I'm coming from a country that was "colonized" both by Swedes and Russians, whose food culture has recently been ridiculed by the Italian premier and which is known in the World through the films by Aki Kaurismäki. And BTW, I stayed in the Highlands and was not in the budget. No offence, I just hate it when foreigners assume Scotland had been colonised by England when it hasn't. Scotland hasn't been colonised by anyone. That's fact and it makes it worse for someone yo say this and who has especially visited the Highlands. I'm not saying you were on a budget either, but to enjoy a traditional Scottish meal you would have to be prepared to spend quite a lot. There are many places here that caters for food, especially tourists, but you have to know where and you have to know how much. Basic cost of living in Britain is expensive, so what you think was not budget, was probably still cheap by our standards. |
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Post by Ilmatar on Jun 30, 2005 3:35:38 GMT -5
Xeno, I was directly quoting a film. It was something one might call a witty remark, not a personal opinion. I'm actually very familiar with the Scottish history, it has always fascinated me, and I bought heeps of books on it while in Scotland (at least books come cheap in GB ). I've also had a chance to have a traditional Scottish meal without paying a penny, thanks to the Scottish connections of my father. I might say I enjoyed haggish slightly more then lambredotto, but still wouldn't eat it again. And BTW, if you think that a Finn would be impressed by the prices in GB, you obviously haven't ever visited Finland or even read the Eurostat reports on consumer prices... |
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Post by zemelmete on Jun 30, 2005 7:42:53 GMT -5
Wonderful pics, must visit Scotland. Ah, what's wrong: the fact you see a real and quasi mystical relationship between the territory, the castles, the people of the past, the Scots, you. That's all in your head. I see beautiful landscapes of a country and then a tacky plastic Buddha (is it Buddha?) that would be ugly everywhere, in China as in Norway. No, I see an alien concept polluting this ancient Scottish landscape and our culture. It simply doesn't belong here. You see, in earlier times people felt landscape and they knew how to build houses that they could pass in landscape. Another thing is that houses were built of local materials. Nowdays unfortunately many people forgot about importance of harmonic lanscape and arhitecture. Eastern Europe is great example how old buildings fit greatly in lanscape, while new one, especially those horrible soviet block-houses, spoil landscape. Landscape of Latvia:  Traditional latvian countryside house:  Castle in Latvia:  National Opera in Riga (capital city of Latvia):  And horrible soviet block-houses (I am waiting the time when they will be destroyed):   |
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Post by Platypus on Jun 30, 2005 10:48:03 GMT -5
[quote author=xenophobic board=racesoc thread=1120009113 post=1120061251 Remember that I'm coming from a country that was "colonized" both by Swedes and Russians, whose food culture has recently been ridiculed by the Italian premier .... Ilmatar... nobody should consider what the The Italian Premier says. He is known all over Italy as an international incompetent some of his gaffes include comparing a German parlametarian to a concentration camp guard and by saying he influenced the Finnish PM with his charm...so succesfully that the Italian ambassador in Helsiki was called up to explain the incident.... |
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jun 30, 2005 10:48:27 GMT -5
nice pics!
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Remember that I'm coming from a country that was "colonized" both by Swedes and Russians, whose food culture has recently been ridiculed by the Italian premier and which is known in the World through the films by Aki Kaurismäki.
