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Post by topdog on May 17, 2005 2:43:16 GMT -5
It was an unfortunate choice of words and I understand why many people are offended, but I think the media (and some politicians) have overblown the story while ignoring the real unjustices that happen daily all around the world. I still don't understand why black face goes on in Mexico despite the fact that descendants of those enslaved still live there. |
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Post by vela on May 17, 2005 10:19:57 GMT -5
I still don't understand why black face goes on in Mexico despite the fact that descendants of those enslaved still live there. It is hard to understand Mexican society from the perspective of US political correcteness frame of mind. For us this is not an issue as emotionally charged as you might expect it to be. We don't attach as much significance to all this racial stuff as you do and laughing about ourselves has been elevated to an artistic form. We can equally laugh at an Indian face, Spaniard face or any other face. We have "Equal Laughing Opportunities".  Besides, I have yet to see an Afro-Mexican complaining about Fox's words. |
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Post by Dodona Underground on May 17, 2005 11:01:26 GMT -5
What's that expression that you kids used a couple of years ago? Yes, I remember---"keeping it real." All Fox was doing was keeping it real. He was talking about the current attitudes and economic reality of American natives in general and underlining his point by saying that not even blacks who are at the bottom of America's native economic pyramid believe that they'll ever have to resort to stoop labor ever again. If worse comes to worse, even blacks can go on public assistance. (Illegal) Mexican immigrants don't see it that way for themselves. It's not even debateable.
But keeping it real is like kryptonite to politically correct race nationalists and the goo-goo, mooshy puritans who love them. They see that as thought-crime.
Come on, guys. Do you really think that Fox has any motivation to offend black Americans or to embarrass Bush, his crony, ardent admirer and possible buttbuddy?
If you want to be angry at Fox, here's something. This is just the most recent example of him as the governmental and diplomatic head of a sovereign nation-state getting involved in affairs that don't concern him. American race relations and the kinds of jobs that we're willing to do are none of his friggin' business and he should keep his big, fat nose out of it.
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Post by vela on May 17, 2005 11:34:59 GMT -5
... ... If you want to be angry at Fox, here's something. This is just the most recent example of him as the governmental and diplomatic head of a sovereign nation-state getting involved in affairs that don't concern him. American race relations and the kinds of jobs that we're willing to do are none of his friggin' business and he should keep his big, fat nose out of it. Yeah! that must be the really annoying part for you: Fox's big, fat nose.  But as long as those poor underdogs on your fields are mostly Mexican he just can't keep his mouth shut! And speaking of noses, you should take a look from this side. They come in every shape and size: leptorrhine, platyrrhine, mesorrhine, you name it. The Tony Garzas, Condy Rice, Rick Perry, etc. Seems like this US-Mexico relation is something most of us love to hate. |
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Post by NuSapiens on May 17, 2005 12:32:42 GMT -5
But keeping it real is like kryptonite to politically correct race nationalists and the goo-goo, mooshy puritans who love them. They see that as thought-crime. Amen to that. I absolutely do not like the PC, white bread, corporatized tendency in American culture. It is responsible for trying to homogenize everyone (especially minority groups) to be nonoffensive, generic ciphers. |
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Post by Dodona Underground on May 17, 2005 13:17:49 GMT -5
It is responsible for trying to homogenize everyone (especially minority groups) to be nonoffensive, generic ciphers. "Stepford life" Yeah! that must be the really annoying part for you: Fox's big, fat nose. But as long as those poor underdogs on your fields are mostly Mexican he just can't keep his mouth shut! hehe If Señor F. will keep his big, fat Irish nose out of my pile o' potatoes, I'll keep my little, skinny Irish nose out of his. ;D I will for now at least---I'm about one more PC hissy fit away from packing my bags and seeing if I can get a job as a greeter at the Mexicali Walmart. |
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Post by vela on May 17, 2005 17:48:55 GMT -5
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But as long as those poor underdogs on your fields are mostly Mexican he just can't keep his mouth shut!