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Post by mike2 on May 3, 2005 17:10:29 GMT -5
for example, sub saharan africans have very dark skin, but lets see, so do southern indians, and many people in the southern asian islands and the australian subcontinent. If they meet the criteria, that's what they are. Negroids = black-skinned peoples of Africa Australoids = black-skinned peoples of the Indian subcontinent, Australia, and Oceania It's really that simple.
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Post by Criollo on May 3, 2005 17:29:20 GMT -5
Why do some many people use semitic as s racial term... They often associate semitic with "darker" features but if their no such race as "semitic" and it is only a linquistical term and Arabs are caucasoid but not semitic are they just really dark caucasoids and I mean pure Arabs not ones mixed with other races pure Arabs are extremely rare.
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Post by gulereatie on May 3, 2005 17:46:17 GMT -5
Why do some many people use semitic as s racial term... They often associate semitic with "darker" features but if their no such race as "semitic" and it is only a linquistical term and Arabs are caucasoid but not semitic are they just really dark caucasoids and I mean pure Arabs not ones mixed with other races pure Arabs are extremely rare. semitic is not just a linguistic group, its also a ethnic group of related people over a pretty big area and historically related. descendend from "shem" thats where the word "semite" comes from. the way you speak of semites is like a invented language that a bunch of middle easterners suddenly spoke, but that;s not true, semites have a identity, ethnicity, culture, and historical truth. Se·mit·ic Audio pronunciation of "semitic" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-mtk) adj. 1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures. 2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic. Sem·ite Audio pronunciation of "semites" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt) n. 1. A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians. 2. A Jew. 3. Bible. A descendant of Shem.
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Post by eufrenio on May 3, 2005 18:30:23 GMT -5
1-Arabs are not native to europe, they don't share a commun history with europeans, therefore, they are not westeners. 2-Arabs are predominantly muslim. 3-Arabs do not speak an indo european language. 4-20% of Arabs (I mean Arabic-speaking, not fake ones like in somalia or sudan) are mulatto-looking (Negroid admixture) In europe, white is never used to oppose an Arab to a european, it's used only to oppose a caucasoid to a Black. But in USA, where even Iberians are thought to be non-white (hispanic), you'd obviously find people saying that Arabs are not White. Bin laden IMO is not even 100% caucasoid. Igu, Arabs are obviously not Europeans, but they are caucasoid/white. Would you deny that? (Barring Sudanese and other borderline cases)
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Post by mike2 on May 3, 2005 18:57:11 GMT -5
When most people talk of Arabs or Semites in a racial sense, they are usually talking about Orientalids.
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Post by Tautamo on May 3, 2005 19:33:44 GMT -5
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Post by KLI on May 6, 2005 3:05:26 GMT -5
1-Arabs are not native to europe, they don't share a commun history with europeans, therefore, they are not westeners. 2-Arabs are predominantly muslim. 3-Arabs do not speak an indo european language. 4-20% of Arabs (I mean Arabic-speaking, not fake ones like in somalia or sudan) are mulatto-looking (Negroid admixture) In europe, white is never used to oppose an Arab to a european, it's used only to oppose a caucasoid to a Black. But in USA, where even Iberians are thought to be non-white (hispanic), you'd obviously find people saying that Arabs are not White. Bin laden IMO is not even 100% caucasoid. Since when are Somalis "fake arabs"? we are not Arab or Arabic speaking at all
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Post by Igu on May 7, 2005 17:38:26 GMT -5
Igu, Arabs are obviously not Europeans, but they are caucasoid/white. Would you deny that? (Barring Sudanese and other borderline cases) Of course would not, I was more speaking about culture and shared history.
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Post by Igu on May 7, 2005 17:39:24 GMT -5
Since when are Somalis "fake arabs"? we are not Arab or Arabic speaking at all Fake arabs because part of the arab league.
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Post by topdog on May 7, 2005 17:42:31 GMT -5
Fake arabs because part of the arab league. If Somalis are 'fake Arabs'[they don't even identify themselves as Arabs, but anyways] so are North Africans[Arabised Berbers] and part of the Middle East. Your North Africans are part of the Arab League.
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Post by Igu on May 7, 2005 17:49:12 GMT -5
If Somalis are 'fake Arabs'[they don't even identify themselves as Arabs, but anyways] so are North Africans[Arabised Berbers] and part of the Middle East. Your North Africans are part of the Arab League. Fake arabs, not because of Race; But because they are not arab-speaking. I clearly stated that in my first message. Everyone who speaks arab is an arab, I oblige no one to be something he scorns. If a berber says he's arab, then he's a fake arab. (I feel very tired to always give Berbers as an example)
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Post by b199er on May 8, 2005 11:15:49 GMT -5
Sudanese speak arab so they are not fake arabs.
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Post by k5125 on May 8, 2005 12:19:37 GMT -5
I think Chad and Djbouti are part of the arab league as well. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by KLI on May 8, 2005 16:23:48 GMT -5
Djibouti is, Chad is'nt. Another non-Arab member is the Comoros
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Post by alexandrian on May 8, 2005 17:14:04 GMT -5
Djibouti is, Chad is'nt. Another non-Arab member is the Comoros and Mauritania, though I met one Mauritanian cab driver who insisted that he was Arab and didn't like being referred to as African. He certainly wasn't pure negroid though and his wife was remarkable light-skinned for a Mauritanian. Still though, I find it interesting that he would rather associate with Arabic culture than African culture.
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