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Post by vela on Apr 17, 2005 15:10:45 GMT -5
The question is very straightforward but you may want to elaborate on the reasons for your decision: social, religious, racial, etc. implications.
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Post by vela on Apr 17, 2005 16:29:03 GMT -5
The question is very straightforward but you may want to elaborate on the reasons for your decision: social, religious, racial, etc. implications. Just as a primer, I know this is a very controversial issue for some of the readers but I admit that the thought crossed my mind at least once. Of course if you stop to think about it you start wondering about all the possibilities of having an unknown child; will he/she suffer?, what kind of parents will he/she have?, will you ever get to know him/her?, etc., etc. On the other hand, you just might not think anything about it!
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Post by Berter on Apr 17, 2005 16:36:57 GMT -5
I voted yes, a condional yes. I will willingly donate my sperm (my berber spermatozoids ) under these conditions : (1) Racial condition --- The receptor female should not be black; (2) Social condition --- There should be an effective/real social reason for me to donate my sperm, like the unhapiness of the receptor female's familly due to their uncapacity to have a child; It would be really great to bring happines to their home. I have no condition on their material capacities; (3) Religious condition --- Noone/unexistant.
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Post by eufrenio on Apr 17, 2005 17:02:36 GMT -5
I voted "maybe". It´s possible that I´d be curious to meet my children, and that would make for an awkward situation.. And anyway, who would want my bad seed? As to my lab-children´s upbringing, it would bother me to have them raised by a couple of lesbians, for instance.
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Post by Faelcind on Apr 17, 2005 22:24:45 GMT -5
I voted maybe, the only reasons I have for not saying a simple yes are emotional.
Berter why would you care if the recipient is black?
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Post by buddyrydell on Apr 18, 2005 1:05:00 GMT -5
It's a tough call because I might feel as if I'm depriving my child of his/her true father, and as much as I'd want to make someone's life better for whatever reason (i.e. the couple is infertile, they can't afford to adopt, etc.), I'd want to be a part of my child's life.
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Post by racer1 on Apr 18, 2005 1:59:14 GMT -5
Fook no! There’s no way I’m going to donate my genetics to some strangers and I find giving your genetics for cold cash repugnant. I’d rather share it with a woman I would care for and love. I was raised in a conservative Catholic setting. So that’s how I think. The kid won’t really know what their family heritage is or who my late 97 year old grandfather who was such as he was a WW2 veteran and the head of our large family clan. Family name that they were born from should represent who they are. I think modern IVF (Invitro Fertilization), fertilized eggs, and other reproductions programs can help childless couples have their own baby. We’re seeing couples who can not have babies medically before, are now giving birth to triplets all the way to quadruplets. There’s old grannies giving birth to babies now thanks to modern science. I saw on TV and I think it was in a science magazine that it was possible for scientists to have a woman to procreate a child on her own without a sperm! So sperm donation might not be necessary unless if they’re doing it because the donor might be academic protégés, scientists, great writers, or engineers in the hopes that their kids might become Ivy League graduates and Rhodes scholar.
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Post by nockwasright on Apr 18, 2005 3:37:00 GMT -5
I voted yes, unconditionally. The children may suffer for his condition or not, but for that individual children, this would be the one and only chance to live. Refuting you are depriving some unborn of his chance to live. Berter: your "black" condition makes me feel uneasy. Why would you care?
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Post by Berter on Apr 18, 2005 16:13:15 GMT -5
Berter why would you care if the recipient is black? ... For the same reason I wouldnt want my self to be part-black. Its a matter of racial preferencies, not racism, as I stated in many occasions ...
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Post by Berter on Apr 18, 2005 16:21:11 GMT -5
Fook no! There’s no way I’m going to donate my genetics to some strangers and I find giving your genetics for cold cash repugnant. I didnt mean that I will donate my sperm for cash, never... Thats my great hope, racer1!. I think intelligent people should reproduce themselves might it be by sperm donation or simply by mariage.
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 18, 2005 21:44:45 GMT -5
I would say no, never. It is not really an emotional response. It is more a belief that if a man is infertile it was meant to be. That man was not meant to father children. I do not agree with adoptions, at least the way it is practiced in most countries. Children should know from a earliest moment that their parents are their parents not some sperm in a pipette or egg in a petrie dish. I have met some artificially inseminated by donor people and they have issues: The unnaturalness of their conception, its clinical nature and the loss of security from knowing that the man who is dad is not your biological father. It is playing God at the tin god level.
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Post by vela on Apr 18, 2005 23:13:01 GMT -5
Interesting opinion. I can understand that an adopted child or a child product of an artificial insemination would probably have "issues" to resolve as an adult when confronted with the truth of his/her life, but is it really something insurmountable when weighed against the personal realization that one is alive?
In other words, if we had to chose between being alive with adoptive parents (even as an orphan) or not being alive at all, what is the best, natural decision from a universal point of view?
After all, if that orphan or adopted child survives and matures he’ll have a renewed chance to form a regular family for the next generation. Just some thoughts!
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 18, 2005 23:32:42 GMT -5
And good thoughts they are. Orphans know that they had parents and that they have died. Many adopted people learn about being adopted much later and the fact really hits home during adolescence. I would think that finding out your biological parents rejected you, for whatever reasons good ones or neutral ones, must hurt. Some people find out that they were conceived by way of a rape. It can be disturbing. But my objection is just based on the idea that people should know where they come from.
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Post by nockwasright on Apr 19, 2005 3:08:59 GMT -5
Interesting opinion. I can understand that an adopted child or a child product of an artificial insemination would probably have "issues" to resolve as an adult when confronted with the truth of his/her life, but is it really something insurmountable when weighed against the personal realization that one is alive? In other words, if we had to chose between being alive with adoptive parents (even as an orphan) or not being alive at all, what is the best, natural decision from a universal point of view? After all, if that orphan or adopted child survives and matures he’ll have a renewed chance to form a regular family for the next generation. Just some thoughts! That's exactly what I meant.
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Post by vela on Apr 19, 2005 8:16:08 GMT -5
And good thoughts they are. Orphans know that they had parents and that they have died. Many adopted people learn about being adopted much later and the fact really hits home during adolescence. I would think that finding out your biological parents rejected you, for whatever reasons good ones or neutral ones, must hurt. Some people find out that they were conceived by way of a rape. It can be disturbing. But my objection is just based on the idea that people should know where they come from. I see your point; and a valid one it is. But everything is relative. How many adolescents get rejected by their flesh and blood parents anyway? And if we dig deep enough into our past who knows what we'll find? As a man from nowhere we can always fantasize and create a history in our own mind or choose the one that fits. And then, there's always DNA if you want to find your origin.
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