Hallam
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Post by Hallam on Mar 30, 2005 12:19:57 GMT -5
East Asia has a high average IQ, but smaller "smart fraction" of people with a verbal IQ over 106. . Pure stupidity.
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Post by Hallam on Mar 30, 2005 12:22:15 GMT -5
what the hell are you talking about? He was being a moron.
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Post by Hallam on Mar 30, 2005 12:23:54 GMT -5
East Asians tend not to have feelings towards anything, which is why they are considered a cruel race lacking the warmth of other groups.This is what many Chinese think of westerners. From a historical perspective, they are more correct.
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Post by racer1 on Mar 30, 2005 17:36:28 GMT -5
Alan Greenspan informed Congress that immigrants, including undocumented workers, in essence donate $27 billion to state and local economies. This is the difference between what they pay in taxes ($70 billion) and what they use in services ($43 billion). In Illinois alone, he testified, "Illegal workers pay $547 million in taxes yearly, compared to $238 million in services used." This is a net "profit" for Illinois of $309 million. This phenomenon is the norm, not the exception, in states where undocumented workers pay taxes. Indeed, rather than take money from, undocumented workers donate money to the American economy and thus to Americans. www.ailf.org/pubed/pe_articles_nw062102a.htmThat’s why we need those temporary worker programs for people from Mexico, India, and Eastern Europe. These people aren’t really taking jobs from Americans. They’re taking jobs most Americans are too friggin lazy to take such as strawberry/orange pickers, janitor at WalMart, or taxi cab driver. Not even a second generation Mexican American would take such jobs. Their immigrant grandparents and parents worked hard so that their kids don’t have to work such jobs. An American kid who grew up in the suburbs and getting picked up by his mom from his little league baseball game is not going to work in a fruit stand in New York or California no matter how lucrative it is. I don’t mind LEGAL immigration but I do mind illegal immigration. That’s not fair to the millions of people waiting in line at the embassy or general consulate to get a permanent residency or green card. I think we need temporary workers just so we can put those body smugglers from the US/Mexico border out of business. They don’t care if they’re smuggling in drug smugglers, terrorists, or criminals so long as they make money bringing people in.
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Post by Tautamo on Mar 30, 2005 17:46:44 GMT -5
That’s why we need those temporary worker programs for people from Mexico, India, and Eastern Europe. These people aren’t really taking jobs from Americans. They’re taking jobs most Americans are too friggin lazy to take such as strawberry/orange pickers, janitor at WalMart, or taxi cab driver. Not even a second generation Mexican American would take such jobs. Their immigrant grandparents and parents worked hard so that their kids don’t have to work such jobs. An American kid who grew up in the suburbs and getting picked up by his mom from his little league baseball game is not going to work in a fruit stand in New York or California no matter how lucrative it is. I don’t mind LEGAL immigration but I do mind illegal immigration. That’s not fair to the millions of people waiting in line at the embassy or general consulate to get a permanent residency or green card. I think we need temporary workers just so we can put those body smugglers from the US/Mexico border out of business. They don’t care if they’re smuggling in drug smugglers, terrorists, or criminals so long as they make money bringing people in. Yes they are taking American jobs do you know what youre talking about? the farmers taxi cab drivers janitors are all Jobs which are being taken away from Americans you know why? because Americans want $$ for a hard ass jobs but someone who earns pennys in a country and come to american and work for 6 bucks they are happy to work without a peep the problem with immigration is hypocrites who vacation south of the boarder.the problem is north America and south America are not working as a team to better this side of the hemisphere. its about being responsible and stop pointing fingers.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 31, 2005 0:35:04 GMT -5
The currency difference between Mexico and the United States guarentee that it is very worthwhile for Mexicans, and Latin Americans to come North and work crummy jobs for American wages.
And let's be honest. On the upside, we get good quality of work, for amazingly low wages. How often can you get someone working at a supermarket, restaurant, or deli who is intelligent, and determined to do a good job. ...Before the Mexicans, half the time it was someone who didn't want to be there.
The downside is their wages don't do anything to help our national debt. They very often don't bother to integrate into the culture, but aren't hostile to Americans either. And it's fair to say that their numbers stymie other immigrant groups who don't speak Spanish, and are effectively locked out of certain jobs immigrants take.
As for how it will end... ...Eventually, although not any time soon, Central America and Mexico will curb it's growth rate, and dig itself out of the problems it has. It will eventually not be worthwhile for Mexicans to come North and work the cruddy jobs. ...At which point, as hard as it is to believe after reading all these gripes... ...we will miss them.
Before that time though, there very well might be ethnic conflict, and organized crime growth.
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Post by racer1 on Mar 31, 2005 3:11:41 GMT -5
Yes they are taking American jobs do you know what youre talking about? the farmers taxi cab drivers janitors are all Jobs which are being taken away from Americans you know why? because Americans want $$ for a hard ass jobs but someone who earns pennys in a country and come to american and work for 6 bucks they are happy to work without a peep the problem with immigration is hypocrites who vacation south of the boarder.the problem is north America and south America are not working as a team to better this side of the hemisphere. its about being responsible and stop pointing fingers. Those jobs are crap, bro. No American is going to want to work at the fields at very low pay in the hot toiling sun so that we can have cheap orange juices, wine, and strawberry smoothies. Not even a second generation Mexican American born here would take that job. Taxi cab drivers is a dangerous work where you don’t know if the customer is going to pay you or going shoot you in the head and rob you. I don’t blame them if they have to be prejudice about who they pick up or not. They have to return to their families by the end of they day. Foreign immigrants have always filled these jobs. As a Portuguese-American, I’m pretty sure you might understand? www.islander-magazine.com/port.htmlThe majority of American kids graduating from high school are going off to college or some other vocational school more so than ever in its history since the industrial revolution. They’re not going into the fields picking oranges and strawberries or cleaning up clogged up shit in the toilets after graduating from high school. American kids might work for low pay at Best Buy, Wal Mart, UPS for spending money or some college money but the majority aren’t going to spend the next 30 years working those jobs. Many have better career goals. As CCC mentions about currency rate between Latin America and US, minimum pay at 6 dollars per hour is enough to send money back home to their family in the old country where some products are a lot cheaper there than here. 6 dollars is a lot to them back home. I have no problem with Mexicans and Latin American workers, they’re mostly friendly and hard working people. This country is a land of immigrants like Latin America and Canada. I’m the grandson of immigrants after WW2. The problem I have is some of these street gangs like “MS 13” and body smugglers called “Coyotes” are trying to smuggle people no matter who they are if they’re terrorists and drug smugglers. That’s why temporary ID work cards are needed for immigrants who want to work in those crappy jobs for low wages so we can put those body smugglers out of business and know who's coming into our borders. We have a soveriegn right who we let in here and protect our borders. If they came here to go to work or go to college then fine but if they came here to smuggle drugs or blow a piece of America up then we have a problem. The problems if the real jobs are gone is organized unions, outsourcing, friggin free trade, and our over reliance on foreign oil instead of using other alternatives to oil like ethanol. I blame mostly on our reliances on foreign oil that drive high prices, unemployment, and causes of wars. If we use renewable cheap energy source like ethanol prices might go down especially when there might be an oil peak. There might not be anymore job outsourcing if we use ethanol and we can pay off the national debt with this: Ethanol www.ethanol.org/Oil Peak www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
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Post by Tautamo on Mar 31, 2005 11:20:28 GMT -5
Those jobs are crap, bro. No American is going to want to work at the fields at very low pay in the hot toiling sun so that we can have cheap orange juices, wine, and strawberry smoothies. Not even a second generation Mexican American born here would take that job. Taxi cab drivers is a dangerous work where you don’t know if the customer is going to pay you or going shoot you in the head and rob you. I don’t blame them if they have to be prejudice about who they pick up or not. They have to return to their families by the end of they day. Foreign immigrants have always filled these jobs. As a Portuguese-American, I’m pretty sure you might understand? www.islander-magazine.com/port.htmlThe majority of American kids graduating from high school are going off to college or some other vocational school more so than ever in its history since the industrial revolution. They’re not going into the fields picking oranges and strawberries or cleaning up clogged up shit in the toilets after graduating from high school. American kids might work for low pay at Best Buy, Wal Mart, UPS for spending money or some college money but the majority aren’t going to spend the next 30 years working those jobs. Many have better career goals. As CCC mentions about currency rate between Latin America and US, minimum pay at 6 dollars per hour is enough to send money back home to their family in the old country where some products are a lot cheaper there than here. 6 dollars is a lot to them back home. I have no problem with Mexicans and Latin American workers, they’re mostly friendly and hard working people. This country is a land of immigrants like Latin America and Canada. I’m the grandson of immigrants after WW2. The problem I have is some of these street gangs like “MS 13” and body smugglers called “Coyotes” are trying to smuggle people no matter who they are if they’re terrorists and drug smugglers. That’s why temporary ID work cards are needed for immigrants who want to work in those crappy jobs for low wages so we can put those body smugglers out of business and know who's coming into our borders. We have a soveriegn right who we let in here and protect our borders. If they came here to go to work or go to college then fine but if they came here to smuggle drugs or blow a piece of America up then we have a problem. The problems if the real jobs are gone is organized unions, outsourcing, friggin free trade, and our over reliance on foreign oil instead of using other alternatives to oil like ethanol. I blame mostly on our reliances on foreign oil that drive high prices, unemployment, and causes of wars. If we use renewable cheap energy source like ethanol prices might go down especially when there might be an oil peak. There might not be anymore job outsourcing if we use ethanol and we can pay off the national debt with this: Ethanol www.ethanol.org/Oil Peak www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Like i said those are real jobs
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Post by kiengi on Mar 31, 2005 14:29:28 GMT -5
East Asia will and already has kindled the greater Asian economic fire which will spread to Central Asia then West/South Asia.
American style Capitalism and European style Socialism aren't the right fit for E. Asia. New-improved socio-econ-politcal-ism that will Arise out of East Asia, and will gain support from Russia, and Central Asia riding the wave. E.Asia definitly has the brain power, Russia has resources and space technologies, Central/West Asia, the natural resources. S. and S.E. asia will be vactioners paradise. Everything started in Asia, and now, welcome back Asia.
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