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Post by Circe on Mar 27, 2005 7:58:02 GMT -5
IMO he is a typical example of African Americans, who overall show more Caucasoid traits, due to the more intensive mixing, than "genuine" black population of Africa. Therefore, genetically speaking, he is partly Caucasian, and does exibit some Caucasian traits that you've mentioned. However, sociologically speaking, most people (I mean the average pple, without some basic knowledge in the area of anthropology) don't pay attention to the details such as his nose or jaw shape, but determine his race based on his skin colour (probably influenced by "one-drop rule"), so he is "classified" as black p.s. That explains why people like Gary Dourdan, for example, are classified as black www.homepage-host.uni.cc/p/elspethmac/CSI_Gary_Dourdan_01.jpgKeep images more than 800px in width as links, thanks
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 27, 2005 8:30:32 GMT -5
I think white men think black girls who are closer to the Caucasian type to be the most attractive. Generally, I don't know many white guys who are attracted to pure African, undisputably black Congoids.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 27, 2005 8:34:45 GMT -5
Yes, she's quite nice-looking, but she's a celebrity and most of them are, anyway. And I remember my little sister was watching CSI with me one day and said something to the effect of "Man, that guy [Gary Dourdan] is one handsome black man."
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 27, 2005 8:51:51 GMT -5
Yes, she's quite nice-looking, but she's a celebrity and most of them are, anyway. And I remember my little sister was watching CSI with me one day and said something to the effect of "Man, that guy [Gary Dourdan] is one handsome black man." Rest assured there are plenty of attractive Congoids, or non-Caucasion mixed Blacks. Here are some non-celebrities... ...and some cute kids.
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Post by tokenguy on Mar 28, 2005 9:35:50 GMT -5
So does this mean that 95% of African Americans should be recatagorized as Caucasian? Or what is you have two "black" siblings where one comes out with a more pronounced nose and jawline then is one "Negrooid" and the other "Caucasian?" Whatever classification system you use its not going to make since in a community like the African American or Afro-Canadian community, and since interracialmatch is a Canadian based sight they used local "Blacks" in their ads. Now if it were say South African based, the models would probably look a little, or a lot, different. Also, not all native Africans have broad noses, of rounder faces, etc. -the basic racist stereotypes of Africans. The is a lot of ancient variety amongst SSAfricans both East, West, and South.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 28, 2005 21:45:35 GMT -5
I don't know. You're going to have to read back in the forum a bit. ...We've basically established that every African-American is basically Caucasian. ...I forget all the reasons why. ...There's only a couple million pure Black Africans left. The rest have been corrupted. In another two generations, they'll all look like Erkel.
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Post by quartermetis on Mar 29, 2005 7:46:46 GMT -5
I don't know. You're going to have to read back in the forum a bit. ...We've basically established that every African-American is basically Caucasian. ...I forget all the reasons why. ...There's only a couple million pure Black Africans left. The rest have been corrupted. In another two generations, they'll all look like Erkel. Well you'd better get started re-educating ALL of America, and start opening up all of the KKK, and Aryan Brotherhood rosters cause someone failed to mention this to them a long time ago!!!!!!
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Post by tokenguy on Mar 29, 2005 7:51:25 GMT -5
Isn't that just a reverse one drop rule, and aren't we always stated in these forums that we're against that type of thinking and it doesn't make sense?
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Post by Jose on Apr 1, 2005 16:44:09 GMT -5
White washing This isn't a chat room
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Post by MC anunnaki on Apr 2, 2005 2:32:37 GMT -5
GARY DOURDAN is by far one of the sexiest, most handsome men alive! Any woman who gets Gary is lucky as hell (and a bitch since it's obviously not going to be me )! Now I must proceed with saving those two pictures in my Gary-folder.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Apr 2, 2005 2:42:06 GMT -5
Is the dog sniffing that man's ass? Back to the interracial dating picture. The man is obviously neither fully black nor fully Caucasian, but a prime example of a Negroid/Caucasoid hybrid. f*ck the one drop rule. He's not black, he's not white, he's inbetween and from what I see he's handsome as hell. Can't we just recognize black/white hybrids as a "race"/group of their own, much like Eurasians? Nobody labels Eurasians as either Caucasian or Mongoloid, so why do it with black/white hybrids?
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Post by Dienekes on Apr 2, 2005 3:36:37 GMT -5
Can't we just recognize black/white hybrids as a "race"/group of their own, much like Eurasians? Nobody labels Eurasians as either Caucasian or Mongoloid, so why do it with black/white hybrids? We cannot really assign a "group" identity to white/black or white/mongoloid individuals, at least not in the biological sense. There are ancient Caucasoid/Negroid intermixtures in Africa, as well as individuals with recent Scandinavian and Nigerian parents. Similarly, there are prehistoric Caucasoid/Mongoloid intermixtures in Central Asia and recent English/Chinese individuals. These cannot be thought in any way to be part of the same group, at least not biologically.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Apr 2, 2005 9:04:52 GMT -5
We cannot really assign a "group" identity to white/black or white/mongoloid individuals, at least not in the biological sense. There are ancient Caucasoid/Negroid intermixtures in Africa, as well as individuals with recent Scandinavian and Nigerian parents. Similarly, there are prehistoric Caucasoid/Mongoloid intermixtures in Central Asia and recent English/Chinese individuals. These cannot be thought in any way to be part of the same group, at least not biologically. Um, no, Dienekes. Again, I'm afraid you are mistaken. Read back and see. His facial shape is indeed Caucasian. It's the darkness of his skin color that is throwing people off. And to be honest, a lot of times marketing people touch that stuff up. Look at the shape. The shape is what is more of a determining factor.
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Post by Igu on Apr 2, 2005 9:31:39 GMT -5
Um, no, Dienekes. Again, I'm afraid you are mistaken. Read back and see. His facial shape is indeed Caucasian. It's the darkness of his skin color that is throwing people off. If what you were saying was correct, people would have mistaken him for an indian (I know indians as black as him).
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Post by MC anunnaki on Apr 2, 2005 11:19:52 GMT -5
We cannot really assign a "group" identity to white/black or white/mongoloid individuals, at least not in the biological sense. There are ancient Caucasoid/Negroid intermixtures in Africa, as well as individuals with recent Scandinavian and Nigerian parents. Similarly, there are prehistoric Caucasoid/Mongoloid intermixtures in Central Asia and recent English/Chinese individuals. These cannot be thought in any way to be part of the same group, at least not biologically. Didn't think about that. It does pose some problems (also, what to do with those who're 1/4 black and 3/4 white and the other way around, can those be considered the same group etc). Well, in the meantime, how about just using the South African system of classification? Black, white and coloured (doesn't say much other than that one's not fully black or white). Not perfect, but it beats calling obvious hybrids black.
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