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Post by Anja on Feb 8, 2005 16:51:24 GMT -5
while working on history fair, i've come across quite a few interesting websites... When most Americans and West Europeans living today think of book burning, they think of May 20, 1933 in Berlin. Because it was filmed, the book burning has become part of every documentary about the Nazis. However, there were other book burnings that were not filmed. They happened not in Berlin, Germany, but in American cities from Cincinnati, Ohio to Lewistown, Montana. The books were not fired by Nazis, but by patriotic Americans. The year was not 1933, but 1917 during World War I when the Constitution was temporarily shelved. Vigilantism was in, Constitutional rights were out. Loyalty to the flag and the English language were paramount... continued at www.johnheinl.net/LHserver/JP-german61001.htm |
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Post by Josh on Feb 8, 2005 22:23:38 GMT -5
Wasn't America pro-German until WWI propanganda came about?
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Post by Anja on Feb 9, 2005 17:39:35 GMT -5
yeah, you could basically say that. german-americans were considered one of the favorite ethnic groups, and germany was admired by many americans for it's educational system (i.e. kindergartens and graduate universities). but after british propaganda started pouring into america that exaggerated the belgium invasion and the lusitania incident, many americans started to turn on germany, just like britain wanted them to.
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Post by Anja on Feb 12, 2005 14:28:42 GMT -5
i think i'm going to post my history fair essay tomorrow here, just mentioning...get your essay criticism thinking caps on!
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 15, 2005 15:24:08 GMT -5
I think America goes through different stages of what they like and what they dont like.
First it was the Indians,then the Spanish,the Negros,the Irish,the Italians,the Germans,the Janpanese and think now the French LOL!
The English i dont ever think where hit by prejudice in American.Unless you count the American Revolution,but most fighting where english against the english though.
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Post by Anja on Feb 15, 2005 19:17:30 GMT -5
yeah..."freedom fries"   it's just funny in the case of the germans how much britain was able to effect American public opinion. crazy brits! |
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Post by Daniel on Feb 15, 2005 21:42:05 GMT -5
Again ethnocentric ... ,british newspaper claim the duty of defending liberty and democrat ideal are
the sole duty of they english speaking nation...
Kipling the duty of white man ...not far ago lol
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Post by buddyrydell on Feb 15, 2005 21:58:56 GMT -5
yeah..."freedom fries" it's just funny in the case of the germans how much britain was able to effect American public opinion. crazy brits! Anyone who actually says "freedom fries" should just be slapped lol. No doubt that Britain will always have the greatest amount of influence on America as far as foreign nations go, because in a way it's like a parent-child relationship if you will. As Crimson said, the only time that really wasn't the case was the Revolution. But afterwards, Americans realized that their true roots and origins lied in Britain (for the most part) so Britain and America soon became very close allies. So weird with the French though. You'd think that after the Revolution and two world wars, America would also be extremely close to the French too. I mean we are allies, but it's certainly not the same as in the way we are with Britain. Still, it's too bad that many Americans don't realize that it's only the corrupt people who constitute the French government who are the ones worthy of contempt, not the average common Frenchman. But the point is, I'd say the strong feelings that many Americans feel with Britain are rooted in a common origin and culture. |
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 16, 2005 0:42:58 GMT -5
Well it may sound odd,but the reason is that the American Upper Class(nobility if you will) are so closely connected to their British brethen,their families are related. Also they all belong to the Freemasons,which is there club.
So yes the Revolution was just political infighting amonst the family..What really changed?We exhanged one overlord for another,who in all actuality where really the same thing...they just where wearing different colors.
The white protestant English are still the powers of America,and American and Britain are so close..
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Post by buddyrydell on Feb 16, 2005 1:38:19 GMT -5
Well it may sound odd,but the reason is that the American Upper Class(nobility if you will) are so closely connected to their British brethen,their families are related. Also they all belong to the Freemasons,which is there club. So yes the Revolution was just political infighting amonst the family..What really changed?We exhanged one overlord for another,who in all actuality where really the same thing...they just where wearing different colors. The white protestant English are still the powers of America,and American and Britain are so close.. True, some of the wealthiest and most of the most politically powerful Americans on average are of WASP origin. |
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Post by captainusa1 on Feb 16, 2005 18:00:23 GMT -5
Well it may sound odd,but the reason is that the American Upper Class(nobility if you will) are so closely connected to their British brethen,their families are related. Also they all belong to the Freemasons,which is there club. So yes the Revolution was just political infighting amonst the family..What really changed?We exhanged one overlord for another,who in all actuality where really the same thing...they just where wearing different colors. The white protestant English are still the powers of America,and American and Britain are so close.. You raised some valid points, but I don't completely agree with you on every one. In an earlier post, you said that the Revolutionary War basically was a case of English men fighting English men. This isn't really the case as Americans, whose families had been in the colonies for generations, established their own identities, albeit influenced to a certain extent by England. You also need to consider the large Scots Irish population, who made great frontiersmen and soldiers. They were about as fond of England as Irish guerrilas during the Easter Uprising were. Then there are the French, Germans, Swedes, and others who made great contributions to the war. After the war, Americans wanted to distance themselves from the monarchy. They even thought about changing the official language to German. I agree that the British *government* is our closest ally now. Our special relationship was forged during the world wars IMO, although there had been ties before that. BTW, it's the Illuminati who run the world.  |
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Post by captainusa1 on Feb 16, 2005 18:12:44 GMT -5
True, some of the wealthiest and most of the most politically powerful Americans on average are of WASP origin. That's true, but Jews are the most powerful group in the United States, and they have the highest incomes. Compare their positions of power to their percentage of the population. I'm not saying that's a bad thing or a good thing. It's just how it is. There are so many WASPs in positions of power because they have always represented a large portion of the population. You find them at both ends of the standard-of-living spectrum. It's hard to find *pure* WASPs outside of places like New England and Utah, so some of the powerful WASPs outside of the Eastern Establishment aren't just English. BTW, people of Italian ancestry have higher incomes, on average, than people of English ancestry. |
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Post by Melnorme on Feb 16, 2005 18:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by captainusa1 on Feb 16, 2005 23:52:40 GMT -5
My stupid webtv won't open pdf files, but I think that I know what you might be referring to, Melnorme. According to the 2000 Census, the top four ethnic groups in the US are Germans, Irish, English, and Africans. The first three groups shrunk as a percentage of the population since 1990. The new figures could be high or low because a huge number of people classified themselves as Americans. 2000 Census: Germans 15% (down from 23%) Irish 11% (down from 16%) English 9% (down from 13%) I wonder how much the results were skewed by the people who classified themselves as just American. Twenty million respondents did so. That's just four million less than the people who classified themselves as English and ten million less than the people who classified themselves as Irish. There were a whopping forty-three million people who classified themselves as German! BTW, 23% fewer people classified themselves as Scots Irish, which put it at fourteenth on the list. Top Ethnicities By Region: Northeast: Irish (16%) South: African (14%) Midwest: German (27%) West: Mexican! (16%) |
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 17, 2005 19:28:57 GMT -5
Yeah Captain I said most because the vast majority at the time where still English settlers. Of course you had the Dutch,Irish,Italians fighting in the war.
But the real Irish immigration didnt really occur until after the potato Famine.
Illuminati are i believe just another branch or extension of the Freemason's,almost same crap.You can find loads of Freemason emblems and designs all over Washington DC the US currency ect.
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