Berter
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Post by Berter on Feb 3, 2005 15:45:46 GMT -5
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Kame
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Post by Kame on Feb 3, 2005 16:57:18 GMT -5
I don't know exactly where the berbers came from, they look interesting, some people say they are native to africa, but I doubt it somehow. Perhaps they are actually africans who just "look" white? There is ALOT of phenotype diversity in north/eastern africa, and a little bit in southern africa. There is definitely black african admixture there in any case, albeit in small amounts. I can tell by their fuzzy hair texture and facial features and such. Clines are just interesting things. They cause us to really look hard and the racial boundaries we have created. I really think we should just lookat people by regional population, not by 'race", human diversity is much more complex than to box people up in racial categories. glad you posed the question, though I am not darkstarr.  |
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Berter
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Post by Berter on Feb 3, 2005 17:05:22 GMT -5
Kame, are you sure you arent Darkstarr !? ;D; Thanks for the reply, anyway.
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Post by Faelcind on Feb 3, 2005 17:09:49 GMT -5
Interesting Pic's berter. As I have said before I don't think the biological diversity of north and east africa can be broken down into a simple Caucasoid negroid dichotomy. Many of the people in those pics look remarkable like my older brothers Mexican cousins, and I have seen pics of other north african who resembled south east asians. While the the wider noses of those children might indicated some sub-saharan ancestry, and I am sure there has been low levels of negroid admixture into berber populations I can't say I see it in any of those pictures.
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Post by BabylonLion on Feb 3, 2005 17:22:04 GMT -5
People forget about the Phoenicians, who founded Carthage in North Africa (Carthiginians). Phoenicians are NORTHERN Semites similar or comparable to Assyrians. Maronites, or Lebanese Christians are descendants of Phoenicians and all of them RENOUNCE the Arab nationality even though they speak Arabic. The Phoenicians language is like the Assyrian one, they speak Syriac and it was them who found the alphabet, although they are going back to their roots to learn the language again.
Phoenicians are light skinned, or "whiter" Semites.
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Post by Human on Feb 3, 2005 17:23:51 GMT -5
where is Darkstarr?  I got used to him... moron, debunked, hehe |
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Berter
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Post by Berter on Feb 3, 2005 17:26:31 GMT -5
People forget about the Phoenicians, who founded Carthage in North Africa (Carthiginians). Phoenicians are NORTHERN Semites similar or comparable to Assyrians. Maronites, or Lebanese Christians are descendants of Phoenicians and all of them RENOUNCE the Arab nationality even though they speak Arabic. The Phoenicians language is like the Assyrian one, they speak Syriac and it was them who found the alphabet, although they are going back to their roots to learn the language again. Phoenicians are light skinned, or "whiter" Semites. Are you implying that these boys have carthaginian ancestry !?... |
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Post by Human on Feb 3, 2005 17:27:03 GMT -5
the invention of the alphabet was really a great one.
i would pay a time travel to know who was this semitic phoenician who had this brilliant idea...
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Post by eufrenio on Feb 3, 2005 17:28:37 GMT -5
Thanks Berter for your links, as always...
But why do you keep posting children? They can´t be classified. It´s best to use individuals between 20-40 years of age, according to anthropologists.
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Berter
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Post by Berter on Feb 3, 2005 17:33:52 GMT -5
Thanks Berter for your links, as always... But why do you keep posting children? They can´t be classified. It´s best to use individuals between 20-40 years of age, according to anthropologists. Hey Eufrenio! I will try to take into account your remark; Wait my next thread on the Iberomaurusian type ! |
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Post by eufrenio on Feb 3, 2005 18:17:23 GMT -5
Iberomaurusian type? I´m looking forward to your post! |
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Post by Evan1211 on Feb 3, 2005 19:06:11 GMT -5
Berter, what is the orgin of the Berbers? I have wondered this recently. Your posts are very interesting.
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Post by BabylonLion on Feb 4, 2005 16:17:01 GMT -5
Are you implying that these boys have carthaginian ancestry !?... Oh yes most definetely. But it would be more accurate to call them Phoenician because Carthaginian is limited only to Carthage...Phoenicians founded MANY northern african cities and established themselves. |
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Berter
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Post by Berter on Feb 4, 2005 16:25:52 GMT -5
Oh yes most definetely. But it would be more accurate to call them Phoenician because Carthaginian is limited only to Carthage...Phoenicians founded MANY northern african cities and established themselves. Dont know how did I wrote carthaginians instead of phoenicians. What do you think, Igu !? |
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Post by Igu on Feb 4, 2005 17:03:30 GMT -5
Dont know how did I wrote carthaginians instead of phoenicians. What do you think, Igu !? -The guy thinks his people lies in the world's asshole ;D -the kids look free from negroid admixture that's all (pure berberids), nothing "phoenician" about them... and according to a recent study, the genetic impact of phoenicians/carthaginians was insignificant, their highest genetic influence was in tunisia : 20%. (where carthage was!) imagine the influence in morocco! 0.0000000000zero% |
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