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Post by anodyne on Oct 30, 2005 10:14:42 GMT -5
"I'm with Mike. I think black Africans are generally disliked because of the way they look. In a world that revolves around Euro looks, those who are the furthest from it will be the less liked. Okay, so I'm oversimplifying it, but it's part of the truth. I mean, ask yourselves why racist whites hate black-white relationships more than East Asian-white or Middle Eastern-white ones? I'm pretty sure East Asians dislike East Asian-black relationships more than East Asian-white ones."
Most Caucasian racists hate Negroid- Caucasian unions because they know the child will look negroid. If that racially mixed offspring has a child with a Caucasian then chances are that child will also look pretty negroid. The same can't be said for a mixed Caucasian - Mongoloid. Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee's son, was 62.5% Caucasian and could pass for Caucasian. Although his eyes revealed an Asian influence.
I'm not sure if most people consider Negroids features to be unattractive. I certainly don't. The only black American women I find attractive are those who have Caucasian facial features. I've heard of studies that state that roughly two thirds of American black men have had sex with Caucasian women. The study was referenced in a book about race i just skimmed through at a book store so I don't know how valid the study was since I didn't check up on it. It also mentioned mixed racial marriages in the US military being quite high.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Oct 30, 2005 11:24:37 GMT -5
If Euros and Mongloids hate African features, then they should be promoting race-mixing. Even if the child looks "black" or whatever then that's less black than before. I highly doubt the grandchildren will looks black unless the White parent already had a high mixture of black genes. If Whites had allowed race-mixing 200yrs ago when it was secretly happening, the black population would have been absorbed by now-easily. All those slave women having mulatto babies who in turned had white babies with white men...etc
Bottom line is white screwed up b/c they wanted to keep a large number of slaves and it backfired into a larger number of blacks.
It's obvious when you see so many people doing what was referred to as "passing" in the early 1900's. Tons of literature written about it. Most attractive and succesful black women marry white/Asian men.
Arthelle Neville-Japanese Husband Diane Carroll-White husband Diana Ross-White husband Marian Wright Edelman-White husband Alice Walker-White Jewish husband ..and I'm sure there are plenty of good White willing to marry Vanessa Williams, Tyra Banks, and Beyonce.
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Post by atlantis on Oct 30, 2005 13:38:01 GMT -5
Africans* are inferior in abilities to other groups (Europeans, Asiatics). This inequality has its origin in the absence of an equaliser-agent, -- God. Africa (its realities) is the macro-proof for Evoultion and for the non-Existence of God. ---- * Yeah, including Berbers! I'm not so sure about that Berter. Tunisia (no oil) for example has a higher GDP per capita than some European Countries. North Africa (Med shore) has a higher GDP per capita than most Asiatic countries. Algeria and Libya have most potential if the leadership changes. Morocco is stuck with "Polisario" which we need to exterminate btw ;D
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Post by atlantis on Oct 30, 2005 13:42:48 GMT -5
Africans* are inferior in abilities to other groups (Europeans, Asiatics). This inequality has its origin in the absence of an equaliser-agent, -- God. Africa (its realities) is the macro-proof for Evoultion and for the non-Existence of God. ---- * Yeah, including Berbers! I'm not so sure about that Berter. Tunisia (no oil) for example has a higher GDP per capita than some European Countries. North Africa (Med shore) has a higher GDP per capita than most Asiatic countries. Algeria and Libya have most potential if the leadership changes. Morocco is stuck with "Polisario" which we need to exterminate btw ;D North Africa is still underdevoloped though.
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Post by anodyne on Oct 30, 2005 14:35:52 GMT -5
"If Euros and Mongloids hate African features, then they should be promoting race-mixing. Even if the child looks "black" or whatever then that's less black than before. I highly doubt the grandchildren will looks black unless the White parent already had a high mixture of black genes. If Whites had allowed race-mixing 200yrs ago when it was secretly happening, the black population would have been absorbed by now-easily. All those slave women having mulatto babies who in turned had white babies with white men...etc"
I don't know if most Caucasians or mongoloids hate African features. As far as i know there hasn't been a study on it although I get the impression that they (generally) do and I'm sure economic status plays an important role. But why would David Duke want his children to intermarry with blacks? (if he has any kids) It would take a few generations for those African features to not show up again and if a Caucasian with significant negroid genes in his background has a child with another Caucasian with a significant amount of Negroid genes in their background there is a good chance that the child might come out negroid looking.
Also, racists such as David Duke don't simply find Negroids physically unattractive. They also find them to be inferior intellectually and morally. So why would a David Duke type want blacks absorbed into the Caucasian population if he believes intelligence and morality is genetic?
"If Euros and Mongloids hate African features, then they should be promoting race-mixing. Even if the child looks "black" or whatever then that's less black than before."
The chances are very high that someone who is 75% Caucasian and 25% Negroid will come out Negroid looking. Also why would a anyone want to make blacks less black? This is like a destorted view of charity.
Also, lets say Caucasian America wants to make blacks less black. How would they go about this? Should white men take on black concubines? and what about the male blacks? should they take on white concubines? Or are you going to force them to intermarry?
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Post by aroundtheworld on Oct 30, 2005 19:00:51 GMT -5
^^^This can be solved by not trying to prevent those who want to be together. I'm not referring to David duke or anyone like him. I mean the basic fat blonde-haired girl who is in love with a black guy. let them be. Lots of them do have beautiful tan gold-haired babies who will inturn "marry up". I am not saying people should be forced into it at all-goodness no!!!! but it's also proven that whites tend to adopt a bi-racial baby quicker than a black baby and a bi-racial baby assimilates into white culture very easily: Soledad O'Brien comes to mind. I wouldn't want to make blacks less black, but if they are hated for "being black" and whites/Asians accept lighter skin/features then they should ease up on miscegenation taboos. Ask any white guy who he'd want to be with: Alek Wek or Beyonce? Whoopi or Victoria Rowell? Venus Williams or Halle Berry? Alfre Woodard or Michael Michelle?  
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Post by anodyne on Oct 30, 2005 22:44:09 GMT -5
"I wouldn't want to make blacks less black, but if they are hated for "being black" and whites/Asians accept lighter skin/features then they should ease up on miscegenation taboos."
This is still a bit strange. So some guy should be happy that his daughter is marrying a black guy because it will make their descendants lighter and therefore less physically unattractive? It still seems like a weird form of charity. Miscegation isn't really a taboo any longer. If it was then every wealthy black guy wouldn't have some blond super model as a wife.
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Post by Hairless on Nov 1, 2005 7:12:43 GMT -5
A lot of the black people I know don't want to "marry up" and purposely seek mates that are also black, the darker the better. I see nothing wrong with that if that is their preference. One such couple could not have children and have adopted two daughters from SE Asia -- they did not really get to chose a particular race, it was just what the agency offered. Of course they are absolutely delighted and the children are wonderful. Similarly, a white/Japanese couple I know adopted their first baby, a black boy who does not appear to have much mixing, and then a Japanese boy. Same thing as far as the agency offereing what it had. Again, both are beautiful and awesome kids (not to mention bilingual brainiacs). I never had a specific racial preference while dating, but I do recall my mother telling me that she would be fine with anyone I brought home that was a good man -- and she specifically mentioned that that included black men (sort of sad she had to specify that, but she grew up in the South during the segregation era and a lot of people were still living with a rather creepy mentality... so I am glad she said it). I think we will see major positive changes throughout most of Africa over the next 50 years! Thanks for sharing some postive indicators
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Post by aroundtheworld on Nov 1, 2005 7:57:57 GMT -5
A lot of the black people I know don't want to "marry up" and purposely seek mates that are also black, the darker the better. I see nothing wrong with that if that is their preference. One such couple could not have children and have adopted two daughters from SE Asia -- they did not really get to chose a particular race, it was just what the agency offered. Of course they are absolutely delighted and the children are wonderful. Similarly, a white/Japanese couple I know adopted their first baby, a black boy who does not appear to have much mixing, and then a Japanese boy. Same thing as far as the agency offereing what it had. Again, both are beautiful and awesome kids (not to mention bilingual brainiacs). I never had a specific racial preference while dating, but I do recall my mother telling me that she would be fine with anyone I brought home that was a good man -- and she specifically mentioned that that included black men (sort of sad she had to specify that, but she grew up in the South during the segregation era and a lot of people were still living with a rather creepy mentality... so I am glad she said it). I think we will see major positive changes throughout most of Africa over the next 50 years! Thanks for sharing some postive indicators khangard if the world was like you, people would be in good healthy relationships with anyone they chose. Racial tension wouldn't exist-just pride for oneself and respect and interest in other cultures/groups. I agree it sounds absolutely wonderful. Heidi Klum's parents adore her new husband, Seal. He is a good man who worships her and loves her daughter(from the white ex who abandoned them). BTW:Are you serious that a White/Japanese couple adopted a Black baby? ?? 
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Post by Hairless on Nov 1, 2005 8:13:49 GMT -5
A lot of the black people I know don't want to "marry up" and purposely seek mates that are also black, the darker the better. I see nothing wrong with that if that is their preference. One such couple could not have children and have adopted two daughters from SE Asia -- they did not really get to chose a particular race, it was just what the agency offered. Of course they are absolutely delighted and the children are wonderful. Similarly, a white/Japanese couple I know adopted their first baby, a black boy who does not appear to have much mixing, and then a Japanese boy. Same thing as far as the agency offereing what it had. Again, both are beautiful and awesome kids (not to mention bilingual brainiacs). I never had a specific racial preference while dating, but I do recall my mother telling me that she would be fine with anyone I brought home that was a good man -- and she specifically mentioned that that included black men (sort of sad she had to specify that, but she grew up in the South during the segregation era and a lot of people were still living with a rather creepy mentality... so I am glad she said it). I think we will see major positive changes throughout most of Africa over the next 50 years! Thanks for sharing some postive indicators khangard if the world was like you, people would be in good healthy relationships with anyone they chose. Racial tension wouldn't exist-just pride for oneself and respect and interest in other cultures/groups. I agree it sounds absolutely wonderful. Heidi Klum's parents adore her new husband, Seal. He is a good man who worships her and loves her daughter(from the white ex who abandoned them). BTW:Are you serious that a White/Japanese couple adopted a Black baby? ??  Yes, they are from Japan and Minneapolis respectively. Their son has very dark skin and African features, so the amount of admixture is slight if any. He is an absolutely brilliant child, already fluent in English and Japanese and learning Korean. Started reading around age two. When the agency called them, they did not care what color the child was -- they were just delighted to finally adopt. But I must say they got really lucky as he is one of those "ideal" babies that always smiles, sleeps through most of the night. and does not have a lot of fits  We babysat for him a few times and I was really amazed lol... so used to babies screaming or crying.
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Post by zemelmete on Nov 1, 2005 8:43:05 GMT -5
Positive news about Africa?I don't know when they will ever be.
It looks like Africa is one damned place. Geopolitically continent is located and situated in very unssuccesful way.
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Post by Batrus on Nov 1, 2005 12:09:51 GMT -5
I think the main reason that racist hate inter-racial marriage is simply because it represents a form of conciliation between the two races. It puts an extra presion in the two families to accept each other. It's the fastest way of group assimilation in a very segregated country as the US.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Nov 1, 2005 13:27:44 GMT -5
I think the main reason that racist hate inter-racial marriage is simply because it represents a form of conciliation between the two races. It puts an extra presion in the two families to accept each other. It's the fastest way of group assimilation in a very segregated country as the US. Yep. It's easier to hate when you are not related by blood. 
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Post by nockwasright on Nov 2, 2005 5:33:55 GMT -5
I don't think black are "hated" by anyone except in the USA where they somewhat are a "problem" to the rest (not implying judgement). Where are these proofs of hate toward blacks in Europe or Asia? Even the most important racist movement of history (nazism) was not focused on blacks. Racism, and even the belief to be superior, does not equal hate. Colonialism was not charged with hate of the colonised. Rivals perceived as threatening and equal were much more hated; Frenchmen hated Germans, not Algerians. As for Asians, I doubt many of them ever see a black man IRL.
About the supposed "look problem", seems to me that black men are not in bad standing at all with white women.
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Post by Hairless on Nov 2, 2005 6:56:14 GMT -5
I don't think black are "hated" by anyone except in the USA where they somewhat are a "problem" to the rest (not implying judgement). Where are these proofs of hate toward blacks in Europe or Asia? Even the most important racist movement of history (nazism) was not focused on blacks. Racism, and even the belief to be superior, does not equal hate. Colonialism was not charged with hate of the colonised. Rivals perceived as threatening and equal were much more hated; Frenchmen hated Germans, not Algerians. As for Asians, I doubt many of them ever see a black man IRL. About the supposed "look problem", seems to me that black men are not in bad standing at all with white women. Perhaps rephrase that as "parts of the USA" or "places in the USA where people talk funny and marry their cousins"
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