Will "race" matter in the future

[ranmin]

mmmkay said:

But often, due to the unfavourable moral conditions under which they are generally reared, they end up suffering from a sort of "cultural schizophrenia" in which they have to somehow reconcile otherwise irreconciliable cultures.

What is that supposed to mean? Why are they "irreconcilable" who sets this up as a fact? Why am I suppossed to believe you?

There are cultures that would usually be completely different from each other if it weren't for the chaotic background of American-style. However, since Americans tend to make statements such as "all races and cultures are essentially the same" (nihilism). Furthermore, it seem that the American masses are quick to adopt that idea.

In the end, racemixers end up harming themselves when they discover that they're essentially culturally and racially incompatible with their "significant other". Likewise, the children who grow up in a "demi-caste" environment would also suffer from an identity crisis because of his environment.

BTW, why should I believe YOU?

[mmmkay]

ranmin said:

mmmkay said:

What is that supposed to mean? Why are they "irreconcilable" who sets this up as a fact? Why am I suppossed to believe you?

There are cultures that would usually be completely different from each other if it weren't for the chaotic background of American-style. However, since Americans tend to make statements such as "all races and cultures are essentially the same" (nihilism). Furthermore, it seem that the American masses are quick to adopt that idea.

In the end, racemixers end up harming themselves when they discover that they're essentially culturally and racially incompatible with their "significant other". Likewise, the children who grow up in a "demi-caste" environment would also suffer from an identity crisis because of his environment.

BTW, why should I believe YOU?

huh, "racemixers"? lol you gave them a whole category. How are people "racially incompatible" do you believe in immutable, spiritual racial traits (industrious asians, inquisitive europeans etc) ?

I dont know about you, but I was brought up on the radical idea that we are individuals, not amorphous racial blobs who are connected by an ominous and arbitrary "racial identity". You, as an individual, are a product of the envrionment and circumstances that shaped you, even your racsist ideas. All this talk of "racial character" is just silly. It is an arbitrary label that only we attach significance to. But I guess thats part of the romanticism of the "race" idea itself.

People will never stop thinking of silly ways to divide themselves ................

[punchmyass]

I'm African-american, however probably in the foreseeable futre, I'd be able to switch around a few genes in my kids DNA to give them blond, straight hair or blue eyes and light skin with no problems, easily. I keep hearing WN's "the white race is dying out", not really. In fact I could make my kids look "white" if I chose 20-50 or so years from now and you would'nt tell the difference.

youve wild dreams for a black guy.anyway i hope you're not serious about it.blond/blue eyed black kid?god white scientists better stop their researches [and additionally stop caring so much about hiv]

[phrost]

I would be interested in the application of gene therapy in regards to genetic engineering. Gene therapy is far behind the other genetic fields like cloning etc. Although with gene therapy you have the promise of changing your own DNA even as an full grown adult.

[aroundtheworld]

Didn't Michael jackson do this with his kids?

[dukeofpain]

In the Descent of Man (Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man 2nd ed (New York: A. L. Burt Co., I 874, p. 178) Darwin writes: "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla."

[phrost]

Obviously Darwin couldnt conceive Genetic Engineering, Gene Therapy, Cloning, Cryonic preservation of cells etc. Let alone the impact of Nanotechnology etc.

[heavenwood]

I really don't think that race SHOULD matter now. However, it does, and probably will still matter to some people in the future.

[asdf]

I really don't think that race SHOULD matter now.

And why is that?

[heavenwood]

Why should it matter? Why should we seperate or discriminate others based on their skeletal structure and coloring?

[nordicyouth]

I once considered the idea that to achieve social stability in the world, every person with light eyes, blonde and red hair, and fair skin would have to be exterminated. Well, why stop there, every person that can be described as 'White' should be eliminated.

Then the remainder, 99.9% of which have black or dark brown hair and black or brown eyes and non-White skin complexion could live in peace i.e. same-ness = peace.

(1) A less violent solution would be to have (as has been suggested before), everyone f*ck everyone else until there are no more 'races.'

The problem is, even if there were no more 'Whites' (as they are known today), mixes and the like would no doubt argue over who is 'closest' to being White or create a new definition of Whiteness based on the fairest cross-section of the world population.

(2) Alternately, non-Whites could use genetic engineering and other methods to transform themselves to look 'White,' again achieving same-ness.

The problem is, then people will be arguing over who is 'really' White, who is an 'original' White; and the same issues as those at present continue.

(3) Whites could take over the world (as outlined in that Shakespearean-like classic 'The Turner Diaries'*), culminating in the nuclear annihilation of Israel (they may be Caucasian, but Jews seem to be White peoples' worst enemy). The book holds that at the end of hostilities, the world would be left with a population of 50 million 'Aryans'.

The problem is, with no one left to fight or no other way to divide based on looks, the 'Aryans' would eventually start closely inspecting eye colour and facial features and take up arms because the other side 'just doesn't have the right shade of blonde.'

THUS: race will never NOT matter. It has nothing to do with science, but rather how people view one another. Looks are important as a form of distinctiveness, whether for a person, ethnicity, subrace, race, etc.

Some cultures are established enough, that phenotype is a smaller factor in that culture than others, but it is always a factor nonetheless. Every ethnicity has its 'look'; whether or not that person is really typical is not important, it's that they are perceived to be.

[nordicyouth]

*Turner doesn't sound very 'Aryan' to me. It sounds American...wait a minute...are generic Whites in the United States appropriating German-ness and National Socialist ideology?

I wonder what the Aryans would think if they could see that they are so posthumously famous.

I wonder what Neo-Nazis would think if they could see what the real Aryans looked like.

A Neo-nazi response: 'Hitler-Jesus help us, the Aryans are mixed too!?...damned Aryan women weren't pure, slept with Blacks!...but the Bible hadn't been written yet...well boys...that confirms it: the last tribe of pure Aryans fled their miscegenating brethren to the New World, to preserve their lineage...and settled in Alabama in ancient times. Not only does this mean we're purer than the rest of the world, this means that those damn Indians didn't come here first. How's about we get their social security checks.

[MC anunnaki]

I've always wondered what those friggin' Aryans did to be so praised. Did they create vast empires, great civilisations? Fantastic art, impressive science, wise philosophers? What exactly did they do apart from touring Central and West Asia and most likely screwing everything that crossed their path?

[asdf]

heavenwood said:

Why should it matter? Why should we seperate or discriminate others based on their skeletal structure and coloring?

Exactly, you're making the assumption those are the only differences. I don't think intelligence, behavior, etc, has been proven not to have anything to do with race nor that they do.

I've always wondered what those friggin' Aryans did to be so praised. Did they create vast empires, great civilisations? Fantastic art, impressive science, wise philosophers? What exactly did they do apart from touring Central and West Asia and most likely screwing everything that crossed their path?

Exactly.