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Post by gelaye on May 3, 2005 14:41:11 GMT -5
will we actually become as 'futuristic' as science fiction predicts - with nano technology and the ability to colonize new planets and travel through space - and how long do you think it will take for this to occur?
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Post by SensoUnico on May 6, 2005 8:10:20 GMT -5
I will give you my idea, unfortunately it is not a bright one for humanity. Humanity will never be able to get beyond this solar system and will never invent vessels that can travel equal to or faster than light. So for humanity the Earth and nearby planets are it.
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Post by Faelcind on May 6, 2005 15:52:47 GMT -5
I agree with senso on this I doubt we will ever manage intrastellar travell. I do however think will do amazing things with nanotech and bioengineering that will create world more foreign then all but the most inventive sci-fi. I find it very likely that we will eventually have an enourmous population crash that will either result in extinction or lead to different evolutionary paths.
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Post by Tautamo on May 7, 2005 17:24:39 GMT -5
humans dont need to go to other planets.we dont need space travel.heck most of our technologies came out of what was for advancing us for space.instead of what we can do for bettering us here!
hell isnt it a shame that places like sudan is such a effing mess yet no one does anything?if it was europe it would be world war 4.
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Post by gelaye on May 10, 2005 7:37:12 GMT -5
yeah i agree totally - isnt sudan the size of Europe? That country could potentially be a super power (hmm maybe thats why the US doesnt want to help it lol)
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Post by KLI on May 10, 2005 7:52:50 GMT -5
will we actually become as 'futuristic' as science fiction predicts - with nano technology and the ability to colonize new planets and travel through space - and how long do you think it will take for this to occur? I think humanity's future is going to be bleak...our biggest worry is Robotics and AI. The development of intelligent robots is going to be disruptive, economically and socially once they figure out how to make robots do all our jobs...corporations will run wild, government as we know it will cease to exist. With robots doing the labour, the labour cost drops to zero and the cost for usage of the robots is moved into the machinery and facilities usage cost. The raw materials cost consists of the cost of mineral rights (usually small), cost of labor (zero if using robots), and the cost of machinery and facilities usage...unemployment reaches 100% money has no value any longer and cost of living drops until basic necessities drop to zero. All your savings/life insurance will be worthless in the new robotic world. Dont believe the bs that intelligent robots will create more jobs for humans, wrong! they'll create more jobs for intelligent robots
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Post by Lusitan on May 11, 2005 10:36:42 GMT -5
I will give you my idea, unfortunately it is not a bright one for humanity. Humanity will never be able to get beyond this solar system and will never invent vessels that can travel equal to or faster than light. So for humanity the Earth and nearby planets are it. The scientific knowledge we have acumulated until now tells us that interstellar travel is possible although problably it cant be faster than light.
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Post by Lusitan on May 11, 2005 11:06:36 GMT -5
yeah i agree totally - isnt sudan the size of Europe? That country could potentially be a super power (hmm maybe thats why the US doesnt want to help it lol) China, Korea, Mongolia, Argentina, Uruguai have potential. Sub-saharian-african nations will not become rich nations until we reach a certain technological level (when we have AI).
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Post by Wadaad on May 11, 2005 19:10:00 GMT -5
Uruguay has a potential to be a superpower? why you say that Lusitan? or do you mean Argentina+Uruguay?
In my opnion current geopolitical entities (countries, principalities, states, kingdoms, etc) will cease to exist in the future for something totally new and unique. Just think of the tough time someone from 5th century BC Athens would have understanding the 21ct century's idea of nations, borders, passports, visas and so on...I think we will have a tough time envisioning what the future holds
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Post by alexandrian on May 11, 2005 19:21:08 GMT -5
yeah i agree totally - isnt sudan the size of Europe? That country could potentially be a super power (hmm maybe thats why the US doesnt want to help it lol) superpower status has nothing to do with size. Sudan is a predominantly desert country with almost zero technological advancement. It has less potential than 80% of sub-Saharan countries. Sudan is smaller than Europe though. It has oil reserves and some fertile Nile Valleys but that's about it I think- certainly enough to reach middle income status way down the road, but dont expect Sudan to be the next China. I honestly think Egypt has a lot of potential in the future and I'll explain why later. I believe that an alliance of Middle Eastern nations (Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Morrocco, Iraq) will probably advance very quickly and together the MENA region will achieve superpower status. Most potential in sub-saharan Africa; South Africa (already achieved a lot) Ghana Sao Tome Equatorial Guinea Angola Congo I think Poland will become powerful soon and so will India. A unite Korea Republic will also be quite strong.
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Post by Igu on May 14, 2005 8:32:06 GMT -5
superpower status has nothing to do with size. Sudan is a predominantly desert country with almost zero technological advancement. It has less potential than 80% of sub-Saharan countries. Sudan is smaller than Europe though. It has oil reserves and some fertile Nile Valleys but that's about it I think- certainly enough to reach middle income status way down the road, but dont expect Sudan to be the next China. I honestly think Egypt has a lot of potential in the future and I'll explain why later. I believe that an alliance of Middle Eastern nations (Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Morrocco, Iraq) will probably advance very quickly and together the MENA region will achieve superpower status. Most potential in sub-saharan Africa; South Africa (already achieved a lot) Ghana Sao Tome Equatorial Guinea Angola Congo I think Poland will become powerful soon and so will India. A unite Korea Republic will also be quite strong. Muslim Arabs will never be a super power, they are getting poorer and poorer, stop dreaming: -Arab nations will be controlled by real muslims, Sharia will be implemented and the khalifa will be restored. -Egypt will detroy all its pyramids because they a symbol of polytheism.
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Post by gelaye on May 14, 2005 13:13:17 GMT -5
do you think African nations will bcome wealthier? I mean once wages in asian nations increase, wont TNC's want cheaper labour, therefore move to places like Ghana, Angola, Ethiopia etc ?
Oh and im not even saying this cos im half ethiopian, but i read an editorial in The Times (british lol) that talked about Ethiopia of having the potential to become a superpower, once its food programmes have finished being implemented (to prevent famine).
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Post by Igu on May 14, 2005 13:31:39 GMT -5
do you think African nations will bcome wealthier? I mean once wages in asian nations increase, wont TNC's want cheaper labour, therefore move to places like Ghana, Angola, Ethiopia etc ? Oh and im not even saying this cos im half ethiopian, but i read an editorial in The Times (british lol) that talked about Ethiopia of having the potential to become a superpower, once its food programmes have finished being implemented (to prevent famine). If liberalism/socialism/egalistarism/islamism stops, "Africa" might have a chance to develop.
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Post by murphee on May 17, 2005 1:42:31 GMT -5
War, famine, epidemics...general mayhem and strife...the usual story. Exponential population growth causing intense competition for resources and environmental repercussions.
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on May 17, 2005 23:04:51 GMT -5
murphee, it sounds like Malthus revisited. I suppose ultimately humans will become extinct. That is the way of all species. Maybe another extinction event is on the way, not of humankind's making, like a severe wobbling of the Earth's axis. But I think humans will be around for some time finding new ways to make things better and quicker or making food out of the stuff coming out of those deep sea vents. Unlike some posters I don't think humanity will ever leave this solar system to visit others unless it is a one way trip and the arrival of the ship will contain nothing but dry skeletons. Maybe God might come back. It is about time.
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