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Post by visigodo on Mar 5, 2005 13:25:03 GMT -5
I’m curious to know what the other Europeans in this forum think about Turkey. I would like to especially hear some of the opinions that Eastern and Central Europeans have towards Turkey, for that matter since they will be the ones who will be most effected, if Turkey is voted into the E.U. in 15 or 20 years from now. I’d especially like to hear from the Greeks, Italians, Polish, Germans, Dutch…etc
What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
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Post by jay (mulatto) on Mar 5, 2005 21:05:27 GMT -5
I’m curious to know what the other Europeans in this forum think about Turkey. I would like to especially hear some of the opinions that Eastern and Central Europeans have towards Turkey, for that matter since they will be the ones who will be most effected, if Turkey is voted into the E.U. in 15 or 20 years from now. I’d especially like to hear from the Greeks, Italians, Polish, Germans, Dutch…etc What are some of your thoughts on Turkey? turley is a good nation. rhey should join eu today. so rhey can get their pimp juice into europe. bang non-mudlism white punani. and everybiby be happy. we shoudld let nigeria come into eu aswell. they cool nigs. byebye. jay\s drank too mush shit. goood nitteeeeeeeeeeeee! |
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Post by visigodo on Mar 6, 2005 3:10:03 GMT -5
Good response, Jay! I respect that. You better not drink too much, officer dyn is out in full force tonight and he's set-up check points throughout the net so as to catch those who he feels have wronged him or anyone on dodona...so be cool, and don't drink and surf  |
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Post by Fleurs on Mar 9, 2005 21:34:49 GMT -5
I dont see any single benefit for us if turks join the EU. I think it s very interesting hearing what the germans say, they have about 3 millions turks, ( i ve seen it, it s not a precious thing) who could become 30 millions if they join .  |
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Post by zemelmete on Mar 10, 2005 12:14:26 GMT -5
I'm from eastern Europe.
I think that Turkey should not join in EU. The first of all, Turkey, unlike European countries, isn't christian country. The second, Turkey has borders with non-stable countries (Iraq, Iran etc.). The third- country has too many poor population.
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Post by Human on Mar 10, 2005 12:18:45 GMT -5
if Turkey abandoned muslim faith and became Bizantium again, christian, i wouldnt think there would be major problems.
a huge muslim country within the EU may cause problems.
in the longer future, due to their fanaticism, who knows, if they accepted within Europe may get muslim.
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 10, 2005 21:28:46 GMT -5
I'm from eastern Europe. I think that Turkey should not join in EU. The first of all, Turkey, unlike European countries, isn't christian country. The second, Turkey has borders with non-stable countries (Iraq, Iran etc.). The third- country has too many poor population. Turks are more European than you are, considering that from what I understand, you have about 30% Mongol blood. |
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 12, 2005 10:19:26 GMT -5
...Not that racial percentage matters to anyone on Dodona.
Turkey is an open border to the Muslim world. Refugees, and illegals flood through Turkey into the EU. ...And Turkey doesn't stop it. ...And now they want Europe to legalize the process, and give them EU membership.
Regardless of what Turkey is ethnically, government wise, it is not on the same page as Europe.
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Post by Alexandros on Mar 12, 2005 12:41:38 GMT -5
Personally i am not against Turkey if they want to join EU, but untill then its a long and hard way.
They must solve the social problems that they have, and they should try to be more tolerate against other Enthnic Groups and Minorities living there.
They must accept democracy and other Religions, but mostly they must respect their Naighboors.
They must respect Human rights, and they should try to accept the woman rights.
There many Problems that need to be solved and the issues i mentioned above they are only few.
I must say that the Turks are trying to solve these problems. Untill then it is a long and Hard way to join EU.
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Post by Batucan on Apr 20, 2005 3:12:30 GMT -5
Turkey have nothing to do in Europe.
Turkey should be stay away from EU since EU is a declining political creature (not an intity). Turkish identity, culture, language etc. are very different from Europe. Europe will be a burden for us.
So NO to European Union !!!
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Post by cunjar on Apr 20, 2005 4:00:36 GMT -5
Turkey have nothing to do in Europe. Turkey should be stay away from EU since EU is a declining political creature (not an intity). Turkish identity, culture, language etc. are very different from Europe. Europe will be a burden for us. So NO to European Union !!! ^Agreed, Turkey does not belong in Europe, Even if Turkey wanted to be part of Europe they wouldnt be able to get in. Turkey is too corupt and has to many human rights violations, did anyone see the police beatings at a women's demonstration in Constantinople (Istanbul) last month, the police were kicking woman protesters heads against the cement, it was barbaric.  Turkey needs to obey the international rules and laws.Their state sponsored propaganda can not change their profile or their Turkish image. The country needs an overall of its human record and civil rights.To scapegoat few,will not solve the problem. Basically,Turkey needs to change her mentality and attidute towards her neighbours and on her own minorities and religious groups. In other words, Turkey needs to bend over backwards,build the Historical bridges that connect her with Europe,and try to be honest and sincere with her past....? |
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Post by nockwasright on Apr 20, 2005 4:10:53 GMT -5
Turkey have nothing to do in Europe. Turkey should be stay away from EU since EU is a declining political creature (not an intity). Turkish identity, culture, language etc. are very different from Europe. Europe will be a burden for us. So NO to European Union !!! One of the few things that give an historical meaning to the concept of Europe is the effort of keeping the Muslims out of its borders. Let's hope you become President in your Country. |
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Post by uygurkazak1988 on Apr 25, 2005 6:02:01 GMT -5
turkey is a brilliant country, with a potential to be a power. it has a flourishing economy despite little foreign investment. turkey should not join the EU, because it will be forced to give up strategic interests in Cyprus and as a turkish cypriot i will feel insecure if the turkish army is gone from the island( LOL even though i live in the south), and 'fess up to the poisonous armenian allegations of genocide. turkey must not be trampled on by people like the french, we are the greatest conquerors in the history of mankind, we defeated these germanic peoples many times before ( drove them out of cetral asia) , and then they stopped our advance and then ruined everything for us from then. also, women's rights are not that bad in turkey, at least comparable to countries like greece or croatia. turkey's women received the right for suffrage in 1923, before many european "democratic" countries and such. women and men are equal by the constitution. the armenian genocide is a battle that turkey has started fighting too late. armenians are like jews with their lobbies and even though they committed treason agains tthe ottomans, murdered millions of muslims, and said themselves 600,000 armenians died( at the end of WW1) the number has gone up to 1.5 million. well according to an official ottoman census in 1914 the total population of armenians was approx. 1 322 000( TRT1 program) out of a population of 13 500 000. ottomans were expert butchers, if theywanted to kill off all armenians why were there thousands of armenians living and still living today in istanbul. blabla, the food kicks ass, the football team lost to latvia  , galatasaray is the best, so is devlet bahceli |
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Post by KLI on Apr 25, 2005 15:34:09 GMT -5
To me turkey is a hodge-podge country that is a victim of its geographical location, thus its identity is sort of like a jigsaw puzzle glued together. I've been there, the people were almost all exceptionally nice and welcoming. I would like to see them join the EU (I doubt it will happen). Turkey should try to better its human rights record, since that it wants to be seen as an example for other Muslim nations, it better get its acts together for its people's sake. At least it is doing better than any middle eastern country besides Isreal
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Post by nordicyouth on Apr 26, 2005 3:22:15 GMT -5
Turkey is non-European and non-White. It has attempted to 'crash' the European party and now wants in. I'm afraid this 'child who plays poorly with others' (another being Germany) has its roots in Central Asia and the Middle East, not Europe.
As one BBC reporter commented in a bit of a Freudian slip: "Turkish entry into the EU would change the complexion of Europe." No kidding.
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, galatasaray is the best, so is devlet bahceli