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Post by Melnorme on Aug 28, 2004 16:20:31 GMT -5
That was the question. Thanks for answering. It's just that I have read opinions of people from Europe who say that they wouldn't mind immigration at all if the immigrants were white. Ah yes, the litmus test for racists.
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Post by eufrenio on Aug 28, 2004 17:41:06 GMT -5
Yes, I am more of a chauvinist than a racist! But Melnorme, you´d be surprised as to how many European extremists (which I am not) are fiercely nationalistic. White Nationalism has no future in Europe for obvious reasons...
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 28, 2004 17:45:45 GMT -5
But Melnorme, you´d be surprised as to how many European extremists (which I am not) are fiercely nationalistic. I've seen enough Andrea vs. The Greeks threads that I'm no longer surprised. ;D
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Post by BallisticaNervosa on Aug 30, 2004 12:59:23 GMT -5
Ah yes, the litmus test for racists. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with such tests
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Post by gbloco on Sept 7, 2004 3:38:02 GMT -5
In the late 1840's when the Irish invaded the US, 1.5 million people came over in just 4 years, to a population which was only 13 million, so this wave equalled almost 12% of the then population. That would be equivalent to 36 million arriving in 4 years today (assuming a US pop. of 300 million) - or 9 million a year. I'm not suggesting that this would be good - as the Irish influx led to riots, murder and civil disobedience, for a while - just that currently we only get a fraction of that number today. the immigrant population in Spain has gone from close to 0% to 10% of the population in the space of only 5 years, without any massive surge in racial violence or social problems. ps. agree 100% with pconroy, "multiculturalism" is a sign of anglo strength not weakness
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Post by Berserk15 on Dec 15, 2004 11:52:56 GMT -5
Well, pconroy, I heartily disagree with you. I never hear about how India needs to open her borders and allow more Euro-caucasian people in to spice things up. Or that mexico should encourage more Chinese and Koreans to move there to "diversify" things. It's always succusful societies that just happen to be white with the exception of Nippon and a few other asian countries. The US hasn't exactly been growing intellectually or technoligically any better than any other developed nation despite its emphasis on multi racialism. I think a more open exchange of ideas between nations would be a much better,long termsolution compared to unchecked immigration which can cause decades and beyond of social problems and racial and cultural tensions.
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Post by Italian Stallion on Dec 15, 2004 19:39:33 GMT -5
Ah Berserk15, you said that with such beauty that it brought a tear to my eye.
How bizarre would it be if you saw Black africans living in China and calling themselves Chinese?
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Post by Berserk15 on Dec 15, 2004 23:35:51 GMT -5
Thanks luch,but why do I feel as though you are being sarcastic?
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 16, 2004 0:02:35 GMT -5
I agree. The root of the rot at the centre of multiculturalism is the double standards - that it doesn't apply to Japan, Korea, etc. Everyone is allowed to be nationalistic except the Whites ESP. North Americans. Our culture is not merely tolerance, it is a culture in and of itself, no matter how young. It is not filled by other cultures brought in through immigration, but changed.
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Post by Berserk15 on Dec 16, 2004 1:05:18 GMT -5
imperator.....You better delete that post before some liberal comes in and "debunks" it. haha
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Post by Italian Stallion on Dec 16, 2004 18:29:18 GMT -5
Thanks luch,but why do I feel as though you are being sarcastic? I wasn't being sarcastic at all. I agreed with everything you said.
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Post by LibLabDog on Dec 17, 2004 0:41:03 GMT -5
Europe is in for a pretty rude awakening. ...Nothing is really going to change this. The economics make it pretty clear, and the intellectual snobs of Europe wouldn't fathom to slow the pace of immigration if it means the might have to work menial jobs.
The European Union is anything but. The fractured cultural difference make it one of the least unified places on Earth, except in terms of snotty attitude.
Children of Mulsim families will be more unified accross Europe then any Secular individualists. Europe will cling to their intellectual individualism and seperate cultures, while Muslims will continue high birth-rates for at least a couple generations. Muslim's shared values, faith and community, will allow THEM to be the exploiters of an economically unified Europe. Not any Europeans who speak courtesy-second languages. Capital markets will quickly invest in Muslim endeavors as there will be less cultural division between Turks in France, and Turks in Germany, as compared between French and Germans who bother to learn each other's languages. ...The European numbskulls even EMBRACE Muslims not having to integrate into their countries. A "triumph" of Multi-cultural acceptance. ...What a joke.
Being American, I really don't care that much about it. But as someone who knows what the difference between immigration and colonization is, it's pretty clear to me that Europe does not. ...I'm pretty sure this message will fall on deaf ears, as they are so enfatuated with themselves, and their identity of blaming America, that they'll see my warning as the ravings of an American Jewish-influenced racist lunatic.
Cheers...
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Post by Berserk15 on Dec 17, 2004 12:46:34 GMT -5
Wow,how long have you been able to predict the future? What are tommorrow's lottery numbers? In any case It's very refreshing to see someone else who *seems* as depressed and cynical as me.
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Post by Quintos on Dec 31, 2004 0:16:33 GMT -5
Hi everyone this is my first post.
Anyways I believe that multicultularism and the current political system simple does not work and will not work. The immigrants put so much stress on the system they absorb the jobs and often pay no or very little taxes. Natives of Europe are getting exploited the government and military that is their to protect them is instead letting a bunch of immigrants in. Wether im a racist or not I cannot deny that because of their social state immigrants increase crime ,take jobs, put extreme stress system and just simple exploit the nation and their birth rates are always exploding while the natives are always low immigrants can also be Islamic terriosts. Quite often in the US and Europe the more immigrants their is in a certain locale the more crime, poverty and despair their is. I think the ultimate solution would be simple to help the "developing" develope rather then flood Europe and other European derived populations with millions of immigrants. We cannot not rely on cheap non-white labor. We are bending over backwards to integrate immigrants we are accepting everything they bring crime,terriosm. I hate no race but we simple cannot have Europe full of non-whites it should be of no surprise that I do not want my culture,people,language to disapear but it will with the way things are going now in Europe im happy with old Europe the old Spain and I hate the new one despise it. Do not forget that Asian countries like China and Japan are not falling for this multicultularism stuff they recieve almost 0% immigration into their countries.
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Post by Quintos on Dec 31, 2004 0:33:13 GMT -5
the immigrant population in Spain has gone from close to 0% to 10% of the population in the space of only 5 years, without any massive surge in racial violence or social problems. ps. agree 100% with pconroy, "multiculturalism" is a sign of anglo strength not weakness Thats because the goverment does not deport them they are irresponsible about the issue of immigration and always look the other way when Spaniards bring it up. And their has been massive racial, social problems and violence the 3-11 trian bomb attack is a good example of one the many thousands of immigrants occupying churches and marching in Catalonia demanding papers is another. The tensions are their one only need to look to see.
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