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Post by berschneider on Apr 17, 2004 15:06:02 GMT -5
France has done a great deal in this direction. It doesn't work. The middle classes just don't want to have 4 kids anymore. We need the Poles. What worries me is that the Germans will get them all and we in the UK will get the Gypsies - a people I know little about but have not heard good things. We can always send gypsies to the United States and ship you some Poles instead.
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Post by berschneider on Apr 17, 2004 15:11:42 GMT -5
The middle classes just don't want to have 4 kids anymore. There is almost no middle class left to speak of (I mean how many people can afford middle class lifestyle with villas and servants and stuff? Not many). Paying people to have babies. You have pay a lot and make lump payments after second child. Pay nothing extra for the first baby. Nothing extra for the second one. 25,000 euros for native born third baby (but not adopted imports) and so on and on. Money talks.
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Post by Scoob on Apr 17, 2004 16:09:47 GMT -5
The problem of the upper classes not having sufficient offspring recurs throughout history. Caesar Augustus' reforms tried to remedy this in Rome, and elevated procreation to a civic duty for the aristocracy.
Interesting posts about EU vs the USA.
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izabet
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Canada isn't that friendly...
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Post by izabet on Jul 12, 2004 21:45:39 GMT -5
As a Canadian, and someone who knows close to nothing about economics, I can only say that yes, Canada has close cultural ties with parts of Europe (Newfoundland and Nova Scotia with the UK and Quebec with France). The rest of the links go North-South, unfortunately. Most of the Canadian population lives within 2 hours of the US border. Free trade gave us all kinds of US chains that weren't up here before and plenty of trade problems (lumber for example). I don't see any point in joining the EU at all, unless the French are interested in more Celion Dion or Roch Voisine CDs.
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 17, 2004 15:41:46 GMT -5
The connection between Quebec and French Canada to France is not as strong as you may think in fact my family is from Quebec and you have to consider that French-Canadians are the second oldest group after natives. As for Canada's connection to the UK it is fading and most Canadians consider it ceremonial and traditional. Canada is economically dependent on the US (about 85%) and minimally to Europe. One factor that makes Canada more European than the US however is that we have very few blacks maybe 2% of the population where the US has 13.5% at least and very few hispanics instead we have many portuguese, italians, east europeans and recently asians. That's why 49% in Quebec voted for the Separatist Party? ( Correct me I'm wrong )
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Post by Bryce on Apr 9, 2005 9:22:05 GMT -5
Europe would acquire powerful nuclear deterrent against its enemy (United States). The enemy ? I'd rather say competitors. Why are you so enraged at Americans ? Do you fear them ? I don't.
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Post by henerte on Apr 13, 2005 15:21:33 GMT -5
We can always send gypsies to the United States and ship you some Poles instead. It seems to me someone is doing little trading in my people I can move out to, let say, Italy. Do they need immigrants? Germany is also ok. France, Scandinavia, GB...hmmm...naah! I will help you to stop the Great Third-world Immigration if you: - wait till I graduate - guarantee me a job, a nice apartment in any of your historical cities and one cute local girl (two is also ok)
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Post by nockwasright on Apr 14, 2005 3:28:36 GMT -5
It seems to me someone is doing little trading in my people I can move out to, let say, Italy. Do they need immigrants? - wait till I graduate The labour market for the graduate is already crowded here .... however I think there is still space left for egineers, MBA and programmers. If you come bring sisters By the way, many of our firms are moving their plants in Poland, so maybe it well be us coming to you .. .
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Post by nordicyouth on Apr 14, 2005 8:16:26 GMT -5
Right on Hernerte! They'll soon be writing tomes about how the Polish 'kolbassa' saved Western Civilization.
It isn't the first time though...
After W.W.I., British agencies came to Poland to lure the men away to England, my grandmother remembers, they would get promised a good job, everything, if only they took up with an Englishwoman.
Without that infusion of good ol' Slavic genes, the British phenotype would be much worse off today.
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Post by nordicyouth on Apr 14, 2005 8:17:28 GMT -5
Well, at least Berschie's finally back. We thought he was dead.
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Post by nordicyouth on Apr 15, 2005 3:52:04 GMT -5
It's true dude. After World War I, the British came to Poland in search of men, and there were all sorts of lures and advertisements. My grandmother remembered, and she was way out east.
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Post by nockwasright on Apr 15, 2005 4:09:31 GMT -5
My grandmother remembered. So who needs further evidence? BTW "Berschie" last post here is a year old.
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