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Post by Graeme on May 15, 2004 10:35:12 GMT -5
Indefens sound like a Michael Douglas character. Look I feel the same. I think Europe has had it. It may take 50 years, but it is going to happen. Islam will take over. It offers what other religions don't: an unquestioning dogma, fanaticism and conformity. Believe it or not, but there are a lot of people who want to be given the answers and told that there are unquestionable beliefs. Islam does that. I haven't know a muslim whose didn't have parrot-like stock answers to any questioning of their belief system. It is if they are programed in the same factory to within a tolerance of a thou of an inch. I think of them as brainless robots.
There are points of no return and people trying to start families in their 30s are not going to produce a lot of children. Fertility problems have increased because women believe they can easily conceive and carry a foetus after the age of 30. The reality is different. To reverse things people have to return to earlier marriage, postpone the career or put it aside and change the way people acquire an education. I don't believe that is going to happen.
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Post by nordicyouth on May 26, 2004 4:51:51 GMT -5
I don't believe Europe is choosing extinction, certainly its birthrate is low and immigration is a problem, but generally with England as an exception minorities are there to work and are treated lower then the native population. Mixing is rare and not encouraged, although interracial dating results both ways due to the presence of an 'exotic' group. Europeans still keep themselves in line e.g. ethnic-cleansing in the Balkans, Basques, Catalonians, Welsh and Scottish autonomy. Europe is laregly still prejudiced towards each other and its cultures are vibrant and strong. Just because North Americans have little heritage and will screw and mix with whoever comes along because hiphop and multiculturalism are popular doesn't mean Europe will throw away 2 millennia of history out the window. Even outside London, England is I quote "overwhelmingly white."
The 'Extinction' article is I guess wishful Asian thinking mixing with population statistics and Spengler's theory of the end of civilizations, the whole 1,000 year gyre of civ. idea. I've travelled extensivly in Europe and interracial couples are rare, mixed babies even rarer, I've seen like one mulatto. I've seen tonnes of German school groups and not a non-white among them. Europe's minorities are not being absorbed, and if these Muslims, etc., are so proud of their heritage to want to change Europe fundamentally, then they would be equally unwilling to mix.
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Post by geirr on May 27, 2004 9:57:35 GMT -5
but generally with England as an exception minorities are there to work and are treated lower then the native population. I would say many immigrants have done well in Europe and are treated very well. In many European nations they have access to the welfare system and other benefits. Immigrants pay taxes and contribute in various ways to society as they have done for centuries. Why is England an exception? I'm afraid if you are going to have interracial dating then you will get interracial marriages resulting in mixed race children. I have seen no studies on this but the idea that people just date, fall in love, have relationships etc and not marry for racial reasons sounds flawed to me. OK, Europeans keep themselves in line by shooting each other in the head? I'm trying to grasp the concept of strengthening European culture and identity by killing each other, very nihilist and beats me. European culture has always been vibrant and strong despite prejudice and war. Is multiculturalism popular anywhere? Hiphop is popular? North Americans have little heritage? Is berschneider still alive? That's great to know but have they built a wall around London yet?.
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Post by nordicyouth on May 30, 2004 3:34:38 GMT -5
I do admit that further immigration could easily result in miscegenation (I believe that's how it's spelt). Take Germany for example, where it is only 93% German - a population composite would reveal a German slightly altered from his or her original form...
However, in Eastern Germany, neonazism is a real and large movement among youth...
Europe will not be extinct because it has a tendency to engage in ethnic cleansing at regular intervals, although a ban on immigration could prevent bloodshed...
Although in Berlin, anything goes, I still see tonnes of German kids on the streets and in baby carriages, parents seem to be having 3 or 4 - rarely ever do I see a mixed kid, although interracial dating is quite high here...
But I do think dating and marriage and children are separate things - the latter needing a lot of thought, the former can be just on whim.
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Post by Italian Stallion on Jul 11, 2004 21:14:11 GMT -5
Oh Boy, did Indefens really give it to that son-of-a-bitch berschneider!!!
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Post by LibLabDog on Jan 9, 2005 15:54:30 GMT -5
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!!
....GO OUT AND MAKE A BABY ALREADY!!!!
DO I HAVE TO DRAW YOU A DIAGRAM??
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