The Future of Multiculturalism

[galvez]

On another thread there is a debate about Kevin MacDonald. Laying aside the charges MacDonald has laid against the Jewish people, he has a point about the current direction of the Western world as a result of political correctness. He wrote:

"And beyond the transformations being wrought by the sea change in immigration policy, I think it inconceivable that the current regime of what Derbyshire terms 'racial guilt, shame, apology, and recompense, accompanied by heroic efforts at social engineering ('affirmative action')' could have been built without the influence of the intellectual and political movements described in The Culture of Critique. As Derbyshire notes, this regime is inherently far less stable than what went before, and one can only shudder at what the future holds throughout the Western world."

Multiculturalism is bound to have long-term effects unforeseen by a lot of people because by encouraging the displacement of Europeans through mass immigration, many Western countries will evolve and become fundamentally non-Western. There is only so much absorption an ethnic group can take before it is altered forever by admixture or becomes displaced.

Some, however, believe the trend toward a coffee-colored hybrid in Western countries -- what is often termed a "browning" -- is positive and will produce a superior race. Some believe that such mixing is the only way to fight racism. What is not mentioned, however, is that it is almost exclusively in Western countries that multiculturalism reigns. Non-Western countries such as China, Japan, and Korea are maintaining their homogeneity, and hardly anyone criticizes these countries for it.

[Goebbels1488]

Yes Galvez, that is exactually what is happening. The Jews do not care about culture and promote multiculturalism. Hollywood,Rap music,government,etc.

[Arawn]

The Jews rule, they're our savior.

[Melnorme]

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[galvez]

Arawn said:

The Jews rule, they're our savior.

One thing is for sure, a "superior" race would not be whining about others controlling their societies.

I have had second thoughts about the Jewish people, and I realize that they have done a lot of good. Those who criticize them are leeches: using their inventions (think of von Neumann) to attack them. A lot of anti-Semites are simply social failures and ingrates who should simply throw away their computer.

Imagine the state of science today without all of the Jewish contributors of the 20th-century.

A truly superior people would never sink so low as to blame another race or subrace for most of their problems.

[galvez]

Goebbels1488 said:

The Jews do not care about culture and promote multiculturalism. Hollywood,Rap music,government,etc.

According to Bertrand Russell, the bulk of "cultural content" of Western civilization comes from east Mediterraneans (Greeks) and Jews (Christianity).

[SwordandCompass]

"on-Western countries such as China, Japan, and Korea are maintaining their homogeneity, and hardly anyone criticizes these countries for it."

First,China doesnt need immigrants thats why there is no criticism.
Recent stats show Japan will start needing immigrants.Their numbers are falling fast.Their economy will feel this.(ill post some links later)
I dont know about korea but now ill look em up

[galvez]

SwordandCompass said:

"on-Western countries such as China, Japan, and Korea are maintaining their homogeneity, and hardly anyone criticizes these countries for it."

First,China doesnt need immigrants thats why there is no criticism.
Recent stats show Japan will start needing immigrants.Their numbers are falling fast.Their economy will feel this.(ill post some links later)
I dont know about korea but now ill look em up

This post is interesting because you use the word "need." A lot of critics of mass immigration do not realize or ignore that a lot of jobs in the U.S. and other Western nations require mass immigration because those of European stock refuse to do these jobs. Those opposing mass immigration argue that if the immigration policy is changed, wages will increase substantially and therefore Europeans (or "Whites") will be more inclined to take these jobs (e.g., fruit picking, garbage collecting, landscaping, etc.)

What these critics do not see is the larger picture: globalization is speeding up and thus national borders are becoming less and less relevant. Americans are buying foreign products because they are cheaper, thus promoting, intentionally or not, outsourcing and the exporting of manufacturing and other jobs. I am willing to bet that virtually all of VDare.com's writers use foreign products and thus directly or indirectly support globalization. There are options for those who oppose globalization: to pay higher prices and to live isolated from current events and trends. This, of course, is simply not an option for the laptop warriors who fiercely oppose mass immigration and globalization.

You cannot have it both ways: to oppose the bad aspects of globalization and to leech off the benefits of it (this is where a lot of people become hypocrites).

The fact of the matter is that the West is much wealthier than in earlier periods, and thus certain jobs, even when the pay is good, are "beneath" most people. Even garbage collectors can make good money -- but no matter, hardly anyone wants to do it. This is not simply about money but also reflects a change in cultural values and standards.

The same thing can be observed with regard to the race debates: given the opportunity, many White Nationalists would pair up with non-White women. In fact, one of the fiercest Germanicists admitted with pride to having dated a Jewish woman. It's one thing to talk the talk and another to walk the walk.

[Melnorme]

I am pro-globalization, but I think efforts to automate menial jobs ( with robotics, etc. ) should be encouraged by Western governments. Unskilled immigrants will stop flowing in droves when they simply can't find jobs. Immigration isn't a law of nature, it happens for a reason.

[galvez]

Melnorme said:

I am pro-globalization, but I think efforts to automate menial jobs ( with robotics, etc. ) should be encouraged by Western governments. Unskilled immigrants will stop flowing in droves when they simply can't find jobs. Immigration isn't a law of nature, it happens for a reason.

The economies of the West shifted from manufacturing to service long ago. There will always be people needed to work at fast food restaurants, as cashiers and stockers at supermarkets, as landscapers, etc. In the U.S. many of these jobs are filled by immigrants who are willing to do it. And Americans, happy with the low cost of labor which translates to cheaper products and services, fuel this trend.

Mass immigration may not be inevitable or set in stone, but Westerners have reaped major benefits and have enjoyed a higher standard of living with having this "underclass" doing the menial and hard labor.

I do see long-term problems with mass immigration, but it remains a fact that there is no genuine grass-roots movement opposing these trends, in actions and words. To truly oppose mass immigration, you would have to live a very isolated existence. It can be done but the will is not there: the price is too high and would require that people not behave with self-interest for the sake of an ideal.

[nordicyouth]

Which is why immigration can only be dealt with by a centralized government with wide-ranging powers.

[SwordandCompass]

galvez said:

The economies of the West shifted from manufacturing to service long ago. There will always be people needed to work at fast food restaurants, as cashiers and stockers at supermarkets, as landscapers, etc. In the U.S. many of these jobs are filled by immigrants who are willing to do it. And Americans, happy with the low cost of labor which translates to cheaper products and services, fuel this trend.

Mass immigration may not be inevitable or set in stone, but Westerners have reaped major benefits and have enjoyed a higher standard of living with having this "underclass" doing the menial and hard labor.

I do see long-term problems with mass immigration, but it remains a fact that there is no genuine grass-roots movement opposing these trends, in actions and words. To truly oppose mass immigration, you would have to live a very isolated existence. It can be done but the will is not there: the price is too high and would require that people not behave with self-interest for the sake of an ideal.

The main reason for immagration is not to "fill" in jobs per say its main drive is economics

1-less pay, more profit

2-more people to pay taxes

3-to try and balance out social security (which is sort of like number 2)

""This would mean an enormous change for a country where 99.3% of the population are native Japanese. The alternative would be to increase the retirement age to 77. "

"The report suggests Italy would need to add 2.3 million immigrants a year to maintain the current ratio, or raise retirement to 77. "

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/685332.stm

The drive is money pure and simple.however you want to view it or have opinions about immagration you better know what your talking about OTHER than "race" because that in its self is a red herring.........

(btw not that i know everything and i dont want to sound like a smarty pants,but i rather stick with "numbers" and "stats" rather than "race"......

[nordicyouth]

Looks like the poor White lands will be the only havens left on Earth for those fleeing multiculturalism. Oh, I'm sorry, multiculturalism of different races.

Excuse me, but I find European culture very interesting and diverse without the infusions of Döner Kebap, and the Africans squatting around on cars and marauding around during the evenings...

[asdf]

I mean one can become a multicultural personality by hard work,

No offense, honestly!--but what does this even mean?