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Post by ahmedgran on Jan 7, 2006 17:22:57 GMT -5
Lets clarify some things. Ancient Ethiopia(Axum) was Exclusive Tigre. Amara was never known they may hae come up as the offsprings of the tigre concubines like Oromo, sidamo, Gurage. withan added pimp juice of the Portuguese See how Dodona79 hates Tigres by calling them names like woyane but when taking about Ethiopian history has to group Tigre & Amara together. have you ever noticed close resemblance of amara & half castes they look almost the same especially the frizzy hair,light complection but the groe tells every thing. About slavery man keep on dreaming. The strange thing with amaras is that if u meet them & asked them who they r they come up with pathetic answers like am Oromo but my mom is amara or am Tigre but my mom is Amara etc . In conclution Amara is aby product of slaves of ancient Axum. GIVE US A LINK OR SHOW US SOME PROOF. I SHOWED PROOF OF HOW SOMALIS WERE SLAVE ETC "the HABASHA slaves, as Ethiopian slaves were commonly called by slave merchants, were not actually Ethiopians in the strict meaning of the Amhara and the Tigreans, as they came mainly from the Galla (a pejorative name the Amhara gave to the indigenous Oromos) and the Sidama areas in southern and western Ethiopia and to lesser extent the Shanqella areas that surrounds Ethiopia's proper and somalia." www.dehai.org/conflict/articles/selam_ethiopia_art_of_lying.htmlAmhrar and tigres never faught. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT? Ahmad Gran, a Muslim Somali leader,c onquered much of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel (reigned 1508–40) appealed to Portugal for help against the Somalis (a Portuguese embassy had reached the Ethiopian court in 1520). The Somali war exhausted Ethiopia, ending a period of cultural revival and exposing the empire to incursions by the Oromo. For the next two centuries the Ethiopian kingdom, centered at Gondar near Lake Tana, was beset by ruinous civil wars among princes (especially those of Tigray and Amhara), was menaced by the Oromo, and was again isolated from the outside world. haha who raped who ahmed gran sold in those twelve years amhara's who didn't want to convert to islam as slaves ;D |
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Post by dodona79 on Jan 7, 2006 17:27:47 GMT -5
dodona79 somali's first gangraped you and your history and then you were gangbanged by the oromo's hahahahahahahahahahahhahhaha and don't talk big about ethiopia meles zenawi recieved militiary help from somalia when mengistu haile miriam was overthrown the way it's going today it doesn't look good soon the oromo's will be the rightfull rulers of ethiopia and not some halfcasts like the amhara's Ethiopians have always used somalis l ike a remote control. Even today Ethiopia is selling the aks and weapons to somali warlords. we sell u the weapons to eat each other with. |
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Post by dodona79 on Jan 7, 2006 17:34:10 GMT -5
GIVE US A LINK OR SHOW US SOME PROOF. I SHOWED PROOF OF HOW SOMALIS WERE SLAVE ETC "the HABASHA slaves, as Ethiopian slaves were commonly called by slave merchants, were not actually Ethiopians in the strict meaning of the Amhara and the Tigreans, as they came mainly from the Galla (a pejorative name the Amhara gave to the indigenous Oromos) and the Sidama areas in southern and western Ethiopia and to lesser extent the Shanqella areas that surrounds Ethiopia's proper and somalia." www.dehai.org/conflict/articles/selam_ethiopia_art_of_lying.htmlAmhrar and tigres never faught. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT? Ahmad Gran, a Muslim Somali leader,c onquered much of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel (reigned 1508?0) appealed to Portugal for help against the Somalis (a Portuguese embassy had reached the Ethiopian court in 1520). The Somali war exhausted Ethiopia, ending a period of cultural revival and exposing the empire to incursions by the Oromo. For the next two centuries the Ethiopian kingdom, centered at Gondar near Lake Tana, was beset by ruinous civil wars among princes (especially those of Tigray and Amhara), was menaced by the Oromo, and was again isolated from the outside world. haha who raped who ahmed gran sold in those twelve years amhara's who didn't want to convert to islam as slaves ;D U GUYS JUST TOOK BACK THE LANDS WE TOOK FROM YOU THAT IS ABOUT IT. AMHARA AND TIGRAY DURING AXUM USED TO BE LIKE THIS MAP  When AXUM GOT BIGGER WE TOOK OVER SOMALIA ETC  THEN SOMALIA ATTACKED AND ERITREA BROKE OFF TO GIVE YOU WHAT TODAY IS CALLED ETHIOPIA. |
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Post by dodona79 on Jan 7, 2006 17:35:38 GMT -5
GIVE US A LINK OR SHOW US SOME PROOF. I SHOWED PROOF OF HOW SOMALIS WERE SLAVE ETC "the HABASHA slaves, as Ethiopian slaves were commonly called by slave merchants, were not actually Ethiopians in the strict meaning of the Amhara and the Tigreans, as they came mainly from the Galla (a pejorative name the Amhara gave to the indigenous Oromos) and the Sidama areas in southern and western Ethiopia and to lesser extent the Shanqella areas that surrounds Ethiopia's proper and somalia." www.dehai.org/conflict/articles/selam_ethiopia_art_of_lying.htmlAmhrar and tigres never faught. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT? Ahmad Gran, a Muslim Somali leader,c onquered much of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel (reigned 1508?0) appealed to Portugal for help against the Somalis (a Portuguese embassy had reached the Ethiopian court in 1520). The Somali war exhausted Ethiopia, ending a period of cultural revival and exposing the empire to incursions by the Oromo. For the next two centuries the Ethiopian kingdom, centered at Gondar near Lake Tana, was beset by ruinous civil wars among princes (especially those of Tigray and Amhara), was menaced by the Oromo, and was again isolated from the outside world. haha who raped who ahmed gran sold in those twelve years amhara's who didn't want to convert to islam as slaves ;D dosnet say anything abut salves |
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Post by ahmedgran on Jan 7, 2006 17:51:29 GMT -5
ey dodona little girl how you like this Ahmad Gran, a Muslim Somali leader, conquered much of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel (reigned 1508?0) appealed to Portugal for help against the Somalis (a Portuguese embassy had reached the Ethiopian court in 1520). The Somali war exhausted Ethiopia, ending a period of cultural revival and exposing the empire to incursions by the Oromo. For the next two centuries the Ethiopian kingdom, centered at Gondar near Lake Tana, was beset by ruinous civil wars among princes (especially those of Tigray and Amhara), was menaced by the Oromo, and was again isolated from the outside world. Ethiopia was affected to its very core by Gragn Mohammed’s destructive rampage of looting and burning and killing of twelve years [1529-1543]. Emperor Lebne Dingel, whose Empire was thus affected, sought refuge in the Lasta and Begemder area. For ten years ahmed gran destroyed in 12 jrs your precious history and he turned half of you in muslims hahaha you amhara's and tigray's were running for your faggotass lives somali were slaves haha what a b.s THAT WAS WAY AFTER THE AXUM SLAVE TRADE EMPIRE. Ethiopia was very weak at that time since it was having a war with EGYPT. (http://ethiopieritrea.byethost15.com/egyptwar.htm <<< this link is from a different war with egypt but it is kinda the same.) somalis hide in caves and come out when their enemy is injured that is how somalis fight. To all non-somalis beware. Somalis like to kiss up and lie. I have all these proffs against them. Who r u gonna belive? The lawyer or the guilty lier. hahaha i swear your funny the reason why somali's never touched you during the axum era was out of respect for the prophet pbuh if it wasn't for him there wouldn't be a axum empire and it was ahmed gran who weakend you don't downplay the facts and somali's were know as berberi's in ancient times the somali were trading goods with arabs and indians and nowhere does it say that berberi's were taken as slaves Both Greeks and Romans were familiar with the Puntland and its important coastal town Berbera. Their sailors in the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean paid frequent visits to the ports of Somalia (then called Puntland) for trade and for exchanging ideas or advice with Puntite (Somali) sailors about the navigational conditions in the two seas. A number of chronicles and books were written by Greek and Roman authors such as Herodotus, Hecataeus, Hippalus and Strabe, who described the general conditions of the Somali coast, particularly its ports and coastal trade centres. Among the books written about the Somali Peninsula was one written about 40 A.D. under the title, "The Periplus of the Erytherean Sea" which described the conditions of trade and the commercial relations between Puntland and outsiders. The first sentence concerning the Somali coast facing towards the Indian Ocean reads: "Behind this place the sea looks to you to the south, there is a big market and then Cape of Spices in the peak of the solid hill which seems to fall to the sea." The author of this book, a Greek merchant of Alexanderia describes other Somali ports also, like Zeila, Malao (now called Berbera), Mundo (near Bosaso). from these ports were halfcasts like you sold to arabs Angered by the mercenary activities of the Christian King of Ethiopia, Lebna Dengel, who was trying to expand his territory into Somalia, Ahmed Gran started a jihad (religious war) and raided the Christian kingdom of Central Ethiopia in 1527. Two years later he gave a major defeat to the Ethiopian emperor, but was unable to follow it up because his armies began to disintegrate.2 somali territory was never part of the axum empire get it thru your thick head |
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Post by dodona79 on Jan 7, 2006 17:56:22 GMT -5
Yea and all the trading with the romans and greeks reflects in your cultutre today rihgt? WRONG.
it actually relflects in ethiopian culture though
u guys are just silly arab wannabes who were FORCED to become muslim from your waaq relegion
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Post by dodona79 on Jan 7, 2006 18:00:19 GMT -5
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Post by dodona79 on Jan 7, 2006 18:01:37 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adowa <<< WE DEFEATED THE ITALIANS LET ALONE LAZY KHAT CHEWING SOMALIS The Battle of Adowa (also known as Adwa or sometimes by the Italian name Adua) was fought on March 1, 1896 between Ethiopia and Italy near the town of Adowa...........
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Post by ahmedgran on Jan 7, 2006 18:02:07 GMT -5
[/quote] dosnet say anything abut salves[/quote] what??? yo go to school learn decent english and then come back allright [/quote]U GUYS JUST TOOK BACK THE LANDS WE TOOK FROM YOU THAT IS ABOUT IT. AMHARA AND TIGRAY DURING AXUM USED TO BE LIKE THIS MAP[/quote] ahmed gran  is all i have to say portugal! portugal! help us! help us! ;D who was living in caves huh?? sad girl some somali guy f*cked her and then dumped her and now she's heartbroken full of hate she makes deluded statements |
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Post by ahmedgran on Jan 7, 2006 18:09:07 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adowa <<< WE DEFEATED THE ITALIANS LET ALONE LAZY KHAT CHEWING SOMALIS The Battle of Adowa (also known as Adwa or sometimes by the Italian name Adua) was fought on March 1, 1896 between Ethiopia and Italy near the town of Adowa........... haha you first try to claim that ethiopia was a weak empire when it was conquered by a chad chewing somali but i don't hear you mention that ITALY was a weak country as well and was nothing compared to brittain your using double standards and that battle was won because of the brave oromo's not because of the homo's like the amhara's forced to islam??? Advent of Islam in Somalia When Islam was born in Arabia in the 7th Century A.D., there was an uprising of the idol worshippers - the Quraish people of Mecca against Prophet Mohammed. They tormented the supporters, relatives and new converts of the Prophet. So the Prophet sent a delegation comprising of his relatives and followers to Ethiopia (then called Abyssinia) where they might have a peaceful life and where they might spread the new religion of Islam. We learn the concrete details of the delegation to Abyssinia in Dr. Majid Ali Khan's famous book "Muhammad The Final Messenger"1. The Prophet had granted his permission in the month of Rajab of the 5th year of Holy Prophets' Mission. Fifteen persons including Uthman-bin' Affan and his wife, Ruqayyah, the daughter of the Holy Prophet, and Zubair bin al' Awim, the cousin of the Holy Prophet migrated in the first instance in 615 A.D., and thus the second batch of about 80 persons led by Jafar bin Alu Talim and his wife reached Abyssinia. They were received by the Abyssinian Christian King Negus, who was impressed by the Prophet's recitation of a few verses from the beginning of Surah "Maryan", the chapter on Mary (No. XIV) in which the story of the miraculous birth of Jesus has been told. While these Muslim immigrants were in Abyssinia, they were mistold by somebody that Quraish had accepted Islam; on hearing this about thirty immigrants returned to Mecca. Some years after this delegation to Abyssinia in 615 A.D., a delegation of the Prophet's relations and followers also reached Somalia to teach and spread Islam. Somalia was then ruled not by one central authority, but by a number of chiefs, heads or leaders of various tribes; these chiefs were known as Malakh, Ugas, Dukh, or Beldage. They welcomed the new religion. Thus Somalia accepted Islam even during the life time of the Holy Prophet. There are four kitabs of Islam -- Shafie, Maliki, Hanifi and Hamudi. The Somalis became followers of the Shafie Kitab. The Shafiate Muslims are hardliners in Islam and they are predominantly found in Somalia (99%) tell me where are the women who according to you were being raped where are the so-called battles just a small group of muslim went to somalia and the somali's accepted the beautifal religion called islam eat that |
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Post by Ras-Xafun on Jan 7, 2006 19:04:01 GMT -5
Lol, this thread is disgusting and shameful.
You both suck, you sound like two kids bickering and squabbling on the playground over nothing.
"My dick is bigger than yours"
"My father is stronger than your father"
That’s how you both sound.
If you two are going to engage in such a backbiting conversation then maybe you should move to an Ethiopian or Somali forum instead of waving your dirty laundries in public, go and attain yourselves some decency for god sake.
Maybe the mods can do us all a favour and close this thread.
I see nothing fruitful coming out of it.
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Post by Dagaalyahan on Jan 7, 2006 23:53:58 GMT -5
Probably Nubians, Nilote people, Ethiopians ( not crazy, aggresive nomads with swords like Afars and Somalis. You have no way of confirming that so why use speculation in place of facts? Where does it say that SOMALIS have been enslaved you fool? |
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Post by Dagaalyahan on Jan 8, 2006 0:07:42 GMT -5
I warned these mods about this Ethiopian kids. Now watch how he'll start bobarding the site with useless information about "ethiopian millionaires".
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 8, 2006 4:38:53 GMT -5
You have no way of confirming that so why use speculation in place of facts? Where does it say that SOMALIS have been enslaved you fool? Can you prove that *NO* were ever enslaved? This fake image of "noble" warriors never enslaved is getting out of hand. |
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Post by gelaye on Jan 8, 2006 7:50:28 GMT -5
ok basically y'all cant say there werent ANY tigreans or amharans that were slaves, there must have been, but also there must have been somali slaves too - im not saying that this happened on a mass scale, but even today in ethiopia households partake in a form of slavery - my relatives have young girls (some about 8!) living and working as servants in their household - now they say they feed and clothe them but comeon its not very fun living 500 miles away from home in someone elses house cooking, cleaning doing EVERYTHING at the age of 8/10. And they are of the same ethnic group - but they are called 'Balhager' - or peasants.......
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is all i have to say 
