ETHIOPIA'S PARTICIPATION IN THE SLAVE TRADE COMMER

[Soomaal]

king said:

How do you know my ancestors were slaves? How do you know that I am even black? Like I said before I am just trying to learn a little about somali history I am not trying to get into any arguements with anyone over this it is just that like most of the somalis on dodona I thought that Somalis were never slaves but after reading what some of the people have posted about the horn of africa it made me change my mind about the somalis being slaves. Like I said before my mind can be changed if there is proof that somalis were not slaves then show it.

Of all the explorers like Richard Burton and Speke none have ever said Somalis were slaves.

The burden of proof is on you, we were never slaves, no matter how much you want us to be. Get that in your head.

[dodona79]

I already proved. Where have you been?

[king]

I do not want somalis to be slaves Maxamed, some people on dodona get angry to easily.

[barre]

dodona79 said:

Ethiopia can feed itself. At least the amhara and tigray group. Do you think the amharas are gonna feed the 10 million somalis and 40 million oromos in Ethiopia? no

No Ethiopia cannot feed itself, ethiopia recieves Food aid while somalia doesnt.
Infact Food aid by the EU has been shipped through Berbera recently.

and dont you know that most of the agricultural land and your coffee crops are in the oromo lands.
They are feeding you, while you opress them.
Imagine if they get thier day in power, surely they will starve you.

[barre]

king said:

I do not want somalis to be slaves Maxamed, some people on dodona get angry to easily.

King you sound reasonable, i suggest you look closer.
Dodona79 is feeling hurt and want to lash out at somalis by insulting them.

[barre]

bertrand said:

somal said:

There were slaves in Somalia, they were Ethiopians and Bantu's shipped from Zeila and Berbera. There is no proof what so ever that Somalis were slaves, where did all the slaves go did they just disappear. dodona79, I was your master and will always be your master.

Are you trying to say there was positively *NO* Somalis that were slaves? Slavery existed in nearly every society.

No slavery did not exist in every society.
Nomadic societies rarely have slavery.
They may have some groups in servitude like the serfs of Imperial Russia, but they were not technically property.

These groups are also somalis, but belong to an older section that was conquered by the dominant clans living today, and they are in similiar position to the lower castes of India.

Slavery was practiced with imported slaves from Tanzania to work in the rivirine areas of the south.
Ethiopian slaves where not used in the north due to the
smaller amount of cultivated area, and where exported through the ports of Ziela and Berbera for the middle eastern Market.

[Sharmaarkee]

Lets clarify some things.
Ancient Ethiopia(Axum) was Exclusive Tigre. Amara was never known they may hae come up as the offsprings of the tigre concubines like Oromo, sidamo, Gurage. withan added pimp juice of the Portuguese
See how Dodona79 hates Tigres by calling them names like woyane but when taking about Ethiopian history has to group Tigre & Amara together.


have you ever noticed close resemblance of amara & half castes they look almost the same especially the frizzy hair,light complection but the groe tells every thing.

About slavery man keep on dreaming.
The strange thing with amaras is that if u meet them & asked them who they r they come up with pathetic answers like am Oromo but my mom is amara or am Tigre but my mom is Amara etc .

In conclution Amara is aby product of slaves of ancient Axum.

[ahmedgran]

ey dodona little girl how you like this

Ahmad Gran, a Muslim Somali leader, conquered much of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel (reigned 1508–40) appealed to Portugal for help against the Somalis (a Portuguese embassy had reached the Ethiopian court in 1520). The Somali war exhausted Ethiopia, ending a period of cultural revival and exposing the empire to incursions by the Oromo. For the next two centuries the Ethiopian kingdom, centered at Gondar near Lake Tana, was beset by ruinous civil wars among princes (especially those of Tigray and Amhara), was menaced by the Oromo, and was again isolated from the outside world.

Ethiopia was affected to its very core by Gragn Mohammed’s destructive rampage of looting and burning and killing of twelve years [1529-1543]. Emperor Lebne Dingel, whose Empire was thus affected, sought refuge in the Lasta and Begemder area. For ten years

ahmed gran destroyed in 12 jrs your precious history and he turned half of you in muslims

hahaha you amhara's and tigray's were running for your faggotass lives

somali were slaves haha what a b.s

[dodona79]

barre said:

dodona79 said:

Ethiopia can feed itself. At least the amhara and tigray group. Do you think the amharas are gonna feed the 10 million somalis and 40 million oromos in Ethiopia? no

No Ethiopia cannot feed itself, ethiopia recieves Food aid while somalia doesnt.
Infact Food aid by the EU has been shipped through Berbera recently.

and dont you know that most of the agricultural land and your coffee crops are in the oromo lands.
They are feeding you, while you opress them.
Imagine if they get thier day in power, surely they will starve you.

MY GOUP IS NOT STARVING. THE ONES STARVING ARE SOMALIS AND THEIR CLOSE BROTHERS THE OROMOS

[ahmedgran]

posted by king

What is so strange about asking if somalis were slaves


i don't have a problem with that question but i have a problem when someone like that dodona troll tries to make my ancestors slaves and impose it as a fact just because it said arabs took slaves from the horn of africa so automaticly somali's 2 come on that's b.s

somali nomads killed arab slave traders who tried to take a member of their clan

eventually the arabs realised you can't make a housedog from a wolf so they did bussines with the somali's

nomads would kill that dirty slave trader before serving his fatass

[dodona79]

barre said:

king said:

I do not want somalis to be slaves Maxamed, some people on dodona get angry to easily.

King you sound reasonable, i suggest you look closer.
Dodona79 is feeling hurt and want to lash out at somalis by insulting them.

feeling hurt about wat? wtf?
lol

[dodona79]

barre said:

bertrand said:

Are you trying to say there was positively *NO* Somalis that were slaves? Slavery existed in nearly every society.

No slavery did not exist in every society.
Nomadic societies rarely have slavery.
They may have some groups in servitude like the serfs of Imperial Russia, but they were not technically property.

These groups are also somalis, but belong to an older section that was conquered by the dominant clans living today, and they are in similiar position to the lower castes of India.

Slavery was practiced with imported slaves from Tanzania to work in the rivirine areas of the south.
Ethiopian slaves where not used in the north due to the
smaller amount of cultivated area, and where exported through the ports of Ziela and Berbera for the middle eastern Market.

So your saying during the axum ethiopian EMPIRE somalis were not inturepted at all because they are "nomadic" u guys suck at convincing others. first of alll you guys have no proof while i have pages of proof. Ethiopia has an EMPIRE while the only thing somalia has is nomadic people with goats. ETHIOPIA HAD A CENTRAL GOVERMENT 3000 years ago. Somlia still in 2006 dosent have a goverment. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4022009.stm

So you saying a bunch of loose nomadic tribes in a low resource area like saomlia beat EThiopians (AMHRAR AND TIGRAI) with european help? lol i say F**K YOU.
NO ONE WITH SOME COMMON SENCE WILL EVER BELIVE THAT.

somal said:

dodona79 said:

I have all these facts while

Maxamed Mooge, wahid and the other somalis on dodona talk about how "FIERCE, somalis are and"AGRESSIVE" they are. So are you guys trying to telll us the rest of the world is not as "AGRESSIVE" and "HARDCORE" as you guys?

THeir proof that somalis werent slaves is that somalis are "AGRESSIVE" WTF?

Bantus are agressive. Arent they? Actually being "AGRESSIVE" is a bantu trait.


Just go check their own website. They freaking say they were sold by AMHRAS AND TIGRAYS

www.ogaden.com/History.htm


.....in 1884 and started raiding Ogaden Somali villages in that area, killing the men and selling women and children as slaves.

As I have said I know first hand that Ethiopians(Habash) and Bantus were sold as slaves. My great great great great grand father Sharmarke Bin Salah shipped the likes of you from Zeila, to think you would talk like this to me today; It is surely the end of times.

The Ogaden are a warrior clan they karbaashed the British, Italians and Ethiopians all at one time. The British had to eventually use their Air force to put a stop the Sayyid Mohamed Abdille and his Darawiish. Guess what he was, he was Ogaden you imbecile.

Lastly the only Amhara and Tigray in Somalia were the ones being sold to Arabs/Iranians/Indians as slaves. to this day Ethiopian women are treated like slaves in UAE, Saudi Arabia etc. I hate to make fun of a fellow African but you need a karbaash.

Maxamed Mooge wrote:
"The Ogaden are a warrior clan they karbaashed the British, Italians and Ethiopians all at one time."


;D ENOUGH SAID

[ahmedgran]

dodona79

somali's first gangraped you and your history and then you were gangbanged by the oromo's

hahahahahahahahahahahhahhaha

and don't talk big about ethiopia meles zenawi recieved militiary help from somalia when mengistu haile miriam was overthrown

the way it's going today it doesn't look good
soon the oromo's will be the rightfull rulers of ethiopia and not some halfcasts like the amhara's

[dodona79]

mfalme said:

Lets clarify some things.
Ancient Ethiopia(Axum) was Exclusive Tigre. Amara was never known they may hae come up as the offsprings of the tigre concubines like Oromo, sidamo, Gurage. withan added pimp juice of the Portuguese
See how Dodona79 hates Tigres by calling them names like woyane but when taking about Ethiopian history has to group Tigre & Amara together.


have you ever noticed close resemblance of amara & half castes they look almost the same especially the frizzy hair,light complection but the groe tells every thing.

About slavery man keep on dreaming.
The strange thing with amaras is that if u meet them & asked them who they r they come up with pathetic answers like am Oromo but my mom is amara or am Tigre but my mom is Amara etc .

In conclution Amara is aby product of slaves of ancient Axum.

GIVE US A LINK OR SHOW US SOME PROOF.
I SHOWED PROOF OF HOW SOMALIS WERE SLAVE ETC

"the HABASHA slaves, as Ethiopian slaves were commonly called by slave merchants, were not actually Ethiopians in the strict meaning of the Amhara and the Tigreans, as they came mainly from the Galla (a pejorative name the Amhara gave to the indigenous Oromos) and the Sidama areas in southern and western Ethiopia and to lesser extent the Shanqella areas that surrounds Ethiopia's proper and somalia."
www.dehai.org/conflict/articles/selam_ethiopia_art_of_lying.html


Amhrar and tigres never faught. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?

[dodona79]

ahmedgran said:

ey dodona little girl how you like this

Ahmad Gran, a Muslim Somali leader, conquered much of Ethiopia. The Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel (reigned 1508?0) appealed to Portugal for help against the Somalis (a Portuguese embassy had reached the Ethiopian court in 1520). The Somali war exhausted Ethiopia, ending a period of cultural revival and exposing the empire to incursions by the Oromo. For the next two centuries the Ethiopian kingdom, centered at Gondar near Lake Tana, was beset by ruinous civil wars among princes (especially those of Tigray and Amhara), was menaced by the Oromo, and was again isolated from the outside world.

Ethiopia was affected to its very core by Gragn Mohammed’s destructive rampage of looting and burning and killing of twelve years [1529-1543]. Emperor Lebne Dingel, whose Empire was thus affected, sought refuge in the Lasta and Begemder area. For ten years

ahmed gran destroyed in 12 jrs your precious history and he turned half of you in muslims

hahaha you amhara's and tigray's were running for your faggotass lives

somali were slaves haha what a b.s

THAT WAS WAY AFTER THE AXUM SLAVE TRADE EMPIRE. Ethiopia was very weak at that time since it was having a war with EGYPT.

( ethiopieritrea.byethost15.com/egyptwar.htm <<< this link is from a different war with egypt but it is kinda the same.)

somalis hide in caves and come out when their enemy is injured that is how somalis fight.

To all non-somalis beware. Somalis like to kiss up and lie. I have all these proffs against them. Who r u gonna belive? The lawyer or the guilty lier.