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Post by jinanren on Sept 11, 2005 14:50:10 GMT -5
Its interesting to note that Hitler maintained a good relationship with China and Japan throughout the early to late 1930's. Even after Japan Annexed Manchuria and launched a full scale attack on Beijing, German advisors were still helping the KMT military and German weapons were still being imported. Numberous KMT generals attended military academies in Germany. Also during the Nanjing Massacre it was a Nazi German officer that saved thousands of Chinese. Why was there an on going connection between Nazi Germany and Nationalist KMT.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 11, 2005 14:54:12 GMT -5
Its important to seperate the real Nazi's of WW2 fame from the Neo-Nazi fakes of today.Their racial doctrine was alot different as was their politics...Their where Chinese,koreans and Japanese serving in the Waffen SS.
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Post by jinanren on Sept 11, 2005 14:56:51 GMT -5
List of Nazi Germany and KMT connections
1. relations with China's KMT party came about because of Hitler's anti-communist policy as early as 1933. 2. the Nazis sold weapons and trained KMT troops. several divisons. weapons ended up being used to fight the Japanese. if someone puts a gun in your hand to defend yourself, do you really care what reason they originally intended as long as the job gets done? 3. Hitler thought about a KMT ruled China as an ally, remember, the Nazi/KMT connections were as early as 1933 while the alliance with japan did not happen until 1938 4. John Rabe, a NAZI and several OTHER Nazis (card carrying members of the NSDAP) set up an international zone in Nanjing saving THOUSANDS of Chinese lives. John Rabe was not an Oscar Schindler type since he and his cohorts still believed in the Nazi ideology unlike Oscar Schindler 5. the nazis gave the Chinese olympic team a very warm welcome with stiff arm salute and everything
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Post by jinanren on Sept 11, 2005 14:57:40 GMT -5
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Post by jinanren on Sept 11, 2005 14:58:46 GMT -5
Its important to seperate the real Nazi's of WW2 fame from the Neo-Nazi fakes of today.Their racial doctrine was alot different as was their politics...Their where Chinese,koreans and Japanese serving in the Waffen SS. Yeah i'm talking about back in the 30s and 40s, todays Chinazis and Neo Nazis are absurd. Did Hitler consider Nordsinids to be superior or something, Indians also served in the Wehrmacht.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 11, 2005 15:17:37 GMT -5
<<Did Hitler consider Nordsinids to be superior or something, Indians also served in the Wehrmacht. >> No! their was no divide between Sub-Races for recruitment nor any special treatment given...Whatever Nordicist Doctrine was quickly & fully phased outve Nazi Germany's Politics by 1935...The only small traces mightve still been retained/found was in the tight eclion of Himmlers inner Circle(who where actually looked down at by the Waffen SS soldiers and commanders),but this had no bearing on the war effort or Politics ect. BTW here's another good web-site for information! www.patriot.dk/aryan1.html
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Post by mandate of heaven on Sept 16, 2005 23:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by Agrippa on Sept 17, 2005 8:47:24 GMT -5
Germany and National Socialism wasnt interested in the whole world, they felt sympathies with other movements and people which managed to stay independent and free from Marxism and Liberalism. The National Chinese movement had sympathies for Fascism to some degree and their fight against Communism and the Chinese-Russian problems were of course a good reason to ally with them. The German anthropologists looked f.e. at Japanese sportsmen and classified them. The general opinion was that both Sinids and Tungids have some potential. If the "Mongol" was pictured bad in Germany, it was because its a foreign and different element, of course they thought of it being inferior or at least not good. Hitler himself said once he dont belief that the East Asians are really inferior, but that they should be proud of their race as the Germans. As long as there is no direct competition about land and power, and that wouldnt have been a problem since the two sphaeres are clearly determined both racially, culturally and mostly even climatically and if its about the Fauna and Flora, why should there be no good relationships? Same with India, Germany had no real interest in making an Indian colony at the one hand, and they fought the British Empire on the other, so it was again just logical to support Indians, and of course, there was some sympathy for (at least the high cultural) Hinduism and Buddhism.
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