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Post by buddyrydell on Jan 25, 2005 21:45:10 GMT -5
Will people ever learn? Being African doesn't make one black. Most North Africans are Caucasoid or predominantly Caucasoid and many South Africans are...well...white European lol.
Hell I think Al Pacino could play Hannibal and be accurate enough lol, albeit an older one ;D. Someone like Tony Shalhoub would be an even better choice (Lebanese-American).
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Post by Brasidas on Jan 28, 2005 2:25:04 GMT -5
I am new to this board, but I will still speak my mind. I have no problem with people wanting to feel proud of their ancestors but please don't take it away from mine!!
I am tired of the whole Afrocentric twisting of the truth. Hannibal was not black he was a Phoenician. And just because Socrates was born on the North African coast(Modern Libya) does not make him black. Athena was also not black. Greek philosophy does not originate from Egypt. And the Majority of the Egyptians were not black. Only the southern area of Egypt had Nubians (slightly) mixed. Only one Pharoah of Egypt was from Nubia. Finally, Cleopatra was not black she was a Macedonian Greek.
The whole Afrocentric craze was started by African Americans who wanted to feel proud of their ancestors after many years of oppression by the white majority. So a few of them started writing all kinds of stuff, some true, but most of it false. I am of Greek descent and I am FED UP with Blacks claiming everything Greek was black and that the original inhabitants of the Balkan peninsula(PELASGIANS) were black before the Hellenic speaking people came to the peninsula. I have read the book "Black Athena" and it gives absolutely no historical, linguistical, or archaeological evidence to support it's claims. Why is it that Black people are so determined to steal a history away from a group of people who never did anything to them??? Well I suppose I'm done venting now, so I will return to a more civilized and educated manner.
I have a degree in Anthropology and I love other peoples and cultures, but I get fed up when people try to claim something that is not theirs. Be proud of the Nubian accomplishments, of Great Zimbabwe, of Nelson Mandela, Desmund Tutu, or even Shaka. From the U.S, Jesse Owens, Martin Luther King, George Washington Carver, Thurgood Marshall, the list goes on and on. There are many more examples that Black Africans can be proud of, so why take from others??
Next, if you want to make certain claims give evidence to support your position. Otherwise no one will take you serious.
Finally, there is an example of what Sub Saharan Africans looked like in the National Archaeological Museum in Athens. The carving depicts a young boy attending a horse. He is clearly recognizable as being non caucazoid. I tried to find a picture on line but was unable. As soon as I get my scanner back on line I will scan a picture for everyone. I believe there are several other examples found in Italy as well.
Anways, everyone be proud of who you and your ancestors are and spread some love around!
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Post by Manga on Jan 28, 2005 3:06:44 GMT -5
I am new to this board, but I will still speak my mind. I have no problem with people wanting to feel proud of their ancestors but please don't take it away from mine!! I am tired of the whole Afrocentric twisting of the truth. Hannibal was not black he was a Phoenician. And just because Socrates was born on the North African coast(Modern Libya) does not make him black. Athena was also not black. Greek philosophy does not originate from Egypt. And the Majority of the Egyptians were not black. Only the southern area of Egypt had Nubians (slightly) mixed. Only one Pharoah of Egypt was from Nubia. Finally, Cleopatra was not black she was a Macedonian Greek. The whole Afrocentric craze was started by African Americans who wanted to feel proud of their ancestors after many years of oppression by the white majority. So a few of them started writing all kinds of stuff, some true, but most of it false. I am of Greek descent and I am FED UP with Blacks claiming everything Greek was black and that the original inhabitants of the Balkan peninsula(PELASGIANS) were black before the Hellenic speaking people came to the peninsula. I have read the book "Black Athena" and it gives absolutely no historical, linguistical, or archaeological evidence to support it's claims. Why is it that Black people are so determined to steal a history away from a group of people who never did anything to them??? Well I suppose I'm done venting now, so I will return to a more civilized and educated manner. I have a degree in Anthropology and I love other peoples and cultures, but I get fed up when people try to claim something that is not theirs. Be proud of the Nubian accomplishments, of Great Zimbabwe, of Nelson Mandela, Desmund Tutu, or even Shaka. From the U.S, Jesse Owens, Martin Luther King, George Washington Carver, Thurgood Marshall, the list goes on and on. There are many more examples that Black Africans can be proud of, so why take from others?? Next, if you want to make certain claims give evidence to support your position. Otherwise no one will take you serious. Finally, there is an example of what Sub Saharan Africans looked like in the National Archaeological Museum in Athens. The carving depicts a young boy attending a horse. He is clearly recognizable as being non caucazoid. I tried to find a picture on line but was unable. As soon as I get my scanner back on line I will scan a picture for everyone. I believe there are several other examples found in Italy as well. Anways, everyone be proud of who you and your ancestors are and spread some love around! I agree 100% with Brasidas, I couldnt have said it better myself. These Blacks in America have no history (other than slavery) and try to claim other peoples history like the Slavo-Macedonians do, Its pathetic ZITW H ELLAS!!!
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Post by nordicyouth on Jan 28, 2005 10:30:55 GMT -5
Slavs don't claim other peoples' history you moron? Slavic countries all have long and colourful histories.
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Post by deuceswild on Jan 28, 2005 13:28:37 GMT -5
If Said didn't exist, would we have to make him up? Hannibal was Caucasoid...period.
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Post by Manga on Jan 30, 2005 23:17:09 GMT -5
Slavs don't claim other peoples' history you moron? Slavic countries all have long and colourful histories. Hey asswipe, I never said Slavs in general, I was talking about the Slavo-Macedonians. Shit, get your facts straight before you start running your mouth!!
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Post by polyglotUSA on Feb 9, 2005 3:13:51 GMT -5
I am new to this board, but I will still speak my mind. I have no problem with people wanting to feel proud of their ancestors but please don't take it away from mine!! I am tired of the whole Afrocentric twisting of the truth. Hannibal was not black he was a Phoenician. And just because Socrates was born on the North African coast(Modern Libya) does not make him black. Athena was also not black. Greek philosophy does not originate from Egypt. And the Majority of the Egyptians were not black. Only the southern area of Egypt had Nubians (slightly) mixed. Only one Pharoah of Egypt was from Nubia. Finally, Cleopatra was not black she was a Macedonian Greek. The whole Afrocentric craze was started by African Americans who wanted to feel proud of their ancestors after many years of oppression by the white majority. So a few of them started writing all kinds of stuff, some true, but most of it false. I am of Greek descent and I am FED UP with Blacks claiming everything Greek was black and that the original inhabitants of the Balkan peninsula(PELASGIANS) were black before the Hellenic speaking people came to the peninsula. I have read the book "Black Athena" and it gives absolutely no historical, linguistical, or archaeological evidence to support it's claims. Why is it that Black people are so determined to steal a history away from a group of people who never did anything to them??? Well I suppose I'm done venting now, so I will return to a more civilized and educated manner. I have a degree in Anthropology and I love other peoples and cultures, but I get fed up when people try to claim something that is not theirs. Be proud of the Nubian accomplishments, of Great Zimbabwe, of Nelson Mandela, Desmund Tutu, or even Shaka. From the U.S, Jesse Owens, Martin Luther King, George Washington Carver, Thurgood Marshall, the list goes on and on. There are many more examples that Black Africans can be proud of, so why take from others?? Next, if you want to make certain claims give evidence to support your position. Otherwise no one will take you serious. Finally, there is an example of what Sub Saharan Africans looked like in the National Archaeological Museum in Athens. The carving depicts a young boy attending a horse. He is clearly recognizable as being non caucazoid. I tried to find a picture on line but was unable. As soon as I get my scanner back on line I will scan a picture for everyone. I believe there are several other examples found in Italy as well. Anways, everyone be proud of who you and your ancestors are and spread some love around! Brasidas, I, too, am new to this board, although I're been lurking off and on for awhile. You are right about USA Negros and their usurping ways. I have seen many. many boards ruined by BNs who take them over to spread their bile. What is going on is this: The Nationalists wish to promote some sort of Golden Age of Africa, in order to get "blacks' here to reject anything than was accomplished here. That way, they will be able to beg for "reparations", and promote nonsense such as Kwanzaa, which was appropriated from Semitic harvest festivals, and other festivals such as Chanukhah. The USA Negros are just doing the same things that Anglos and Ashkhenazim do, which is claim history that is not theirs and try to influence the real holders of that history that they are part of it. Witness the usurpation of Judaism by Ashkhenazim, who have even tricked some Sepharadim into supporting Fascists such as Sharon. Sharon is no more a Jew than some damed "Nord" is historically British. British people are Gaels, not Mongols as are Anglos. USA Negros are not Egyptian, but they twist the insane obsession with skin shade here to make old usages of the various forms of "black" to paint hemselves as such. hell, "Dublin" essentially means, "Land of Blacks", but it didn't mean Negros. "Darcy" means "black", and may well have been thew source of the slur "darky" to refer to Negros. It probably originated in Jamaica amongst Irish indentured/sailors, because the "yellow gals" reminded them of the "Darcies" back home. Of course, it only became a slur later on.
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Post by Siafu X on Dec 26, 2005 18:07:51 GMT -5
lol i can probably see Vin Disel but Washington lol wtf n Octavivs i saw da link dam tere r sum dummm ass ppl in this wrld
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Post by ikilledjesus on Dec 26, 2005 18:12:40 GMT -5
lol i can probably see Vin Disel but Washington lol wtf n Octavivs i saw da link dam tere r sum dummm ass ppl in this wrld wat u say i don understant
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Post by ikilledjesus on Dec 26, 2005 18:24:53 GMT -5
, you dumbf%ck. I have trained in top US schools( college, medical school, residency), and accustom to a life, you will never experience my waterboy friend. Tall, Dark and Handsome( just like ancestors), yep, that's what your mom calls me . See ya , Loser And yet, you have the spelling skills of a 12 year old.
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Post by Siafu X on Dec 26, 2005 18:25:44 GMT -5
What I was trying to convey was that I can possibly see Vin Disel in the Role of Hannbial Barca, but to say that Denzel Washington can correctly portray a Caucasoid male is hardly unlikely. To Octavivs I did gaze at the link you provided and saw the asinine people that post on that forum. Well I do hope that was more informative to Ikilledjesus
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Post by elizabeth2 on Dec 28, 2005 12:55:47 GMT -5
Blacks are the Majority of South Africa, i've been all over africa and when i went to Egypt not including big Arab cities like Cairo and Alexanderia the Majority of egyptians remains black African..theres few nubian villages in egypt, they mostly live in NUBIA not egypt opposed to the Black Egyptians Who are still living on the Nile River. Don't disrespect them
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Post by wadad on Dec 28, 2005 13:12:13 GMT -5
Blacks are the Majority of South Africa, i've been all over africa and when i went to Egypt not including big Arab cities like Cairo and Alexanderia the Majority of egyptians remains black African, African-americans are often mistaken for being egyptian..theres few nubian villages in egypt, they mostly live in NUBIA not egypt opposed to the Egyptians Who are still living on the Nile River. oh and ancient and modern egyptians prefered to the land know called SUDAN as their 'ancestral land' or were sudanese orginially caucasoids?? OH boy...Im really embarassed for you because you are outright lying and everyone can see it. Im sorry for being so blunt. I am being rude to shock you into your senses, Im sorry .... but you dont need to believe in fairy tales to be proud of your roots. (Im Black too btw ) And trust me, you dont need to say stuff like Egyptians are African American look alikes for the most part. (Though theres definitely people in Upper Egypt who could indeed pass for Af.American, they are by no means the majority). Elizabeth, what do you know about: Ghana empire Songhai empire Mali empire ?
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 28, 2005 13:15:05 GMT -5
You know the frustrating thing about studying what the ancient Egyptians looked like is that the murals are often ambiguous. I mean, sometimes they can look Horner (originating further south), but oft times they look like gracile Caucasian Berbers (coming into Africa from the Middle East). I think the only way any of us laymen can really know is if we travelled back in time and saw for ourselves. Horner-looking (or at least could pass): Saharid Berber-looking: www.agronomy.ucdavis.edu/gepts/pb143/lec02/Egypt1.jpgBut on most of the other ones I've seen it's like I can't tell unless the detail is very intricate. It doesn't help that Aethiopids and Saharids with their gracility and fine features are so similar to each other somatically. For instance, I have not a clue about this one: She could be either one.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 13:19:08 GMT -5
One does not need to limit or delimit themselves to studying and focusing on any one particular place in Africa because in some way shape or form nearly all the kingdoms and civilizations in Africa are linked, either through trade, warfare or historical contact or as allies.
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