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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 6, 2006 18:45:46 GMT -5
A number of prominent world historians and scholars supported the recent remarks of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on the Holocaust. The former social scientist, Serge Thion kicked out of his job for revisionism, declared his own and his colleagues approval of Ahmadinejad's outlook and referred to his comments as logical, fair and courageous. "I wish to assure you that French and international revisionist scholars will support entirely the Iranian President Ahmadinejad. They found his speeches remarkably accurate, his ideas very sound, and his proposals very rational and just. "We find a great solace in the courageous behavior of the highest Iranian authorities," added Thion. The Florida-based American author and critic of the policies of US administration, John Kaminski, appreciated President Ahmadinejad for what he said. "As an American citizen, I feel ashamed of the approach of my country throughout the world, in particular towards Iran and Venezuela. I have to admit that we feel unsafe at home. "Best wishes to the Iranian president. May we all have the courage to continue to speak the truth under any circumstances," added Kaminski. Dana I. Alvi from a Polish- American committee said, "I have personally experienced World War II in Warsaw, Poland. Certainly, the experiences of the Jews under the German occupation have now been propagandized. "Certainly, they have suffered as most people in those times and places. The experience of the Jews (the Holocaust) has been just one part of the overall tragedy of the World War II. I believe that Poles suffered the greatest losses. Until now, Poles do not have any control over their own country." An Australian-based analyst of Middle East issues, Mohammad Hejazi, called for a conference to be held in Tehran on the matter, to give the world top revisionists, who believe that Holocaust has been exaggerated, a chance to express their relevant opinions. A British Historian and Holocaust revisionist, David Irving, currently imprisoned and awaiting his trial in Austria on charges of denying holocaust, is one of the proponents of Ahmadinejad's views on holocaust. Irving has so far been beaten by Jewish groups in Britain and all over the world. He has been banned from visiting the Commonwealth countries and once as he intended to enter Australia to meet a family member, a group of Jews pressurized the Australian government to prevent him from entering the country. The Canadian publisher of German origin and one of the most staunch Holocaust deniers, Ernst Zendel, who has been exiled from Canada after residing there for 40 years is another individual supporting the president's approach. Zendel is now in prison in Germany waiting to stand trial on charge of questioning the assassination of six million Jews during the Holocaust. Another German holocaust denier, a former Reuters reporter and author of several books on holocaust, Michael Hofmann, considering himself as a historian and researcher of fundamental historical facts, expressed his support for Ahmadinejad's outlook in an analysis appearing at his personal website. He termed the president's remarks as sacred, given that many revisionists are currently imprisoned in Germany, France and Belgium for having spoken against Holocaust. The French researcher and holocaust critic, Henry Rock, declared his full support for the scientific remarks of President Ahmadinejad and called for further assessment of Holocaust and research on it. A group of other researchers referred to the comments of Iranian president on Holocaust as "Christmas Message from a Courageous Muslim". Meanwhile, a number of domestic figures and Iranian expatriate authors also expressed their support for freedom of expression in Iran and the president's remarks on Holocaust. www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=294297526#Post294297526Coinciding, Dana Alvi, the holocaust survivor mentioned above, has a polish national libel website that can be found at www.papurec.org
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Post by anodyne on Jan 6, 2006 19:30:05 GMT -5
LOL! You do realize where your article comes from correct? www.irna.ir/en/content/view/menu-240/id-24/You should have gone back and checked on them. Here, I did it for you. From their website: www.irna.ir/en/content/view/menu-240/id-24/ It's not a respectable source. It's just a government mouth piece. Guidelines The professional activities of the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) are based on and aimed at securing the Islamic Republic of Iran's national interests. Efforts of management and professional personnel of IRNA are thus focused on achieving higher ground each day n fulfillment of its stated goal. The organization functions as the "mother source of information dissemination" within the country, feeding its authorities, nationals and various publications with various types of news, bulletins, research works, opinion polls and stories of general interest through its various telex lines. It also provides link-up channels for online foreign dispatches and photographs around the clock. IRNA's external services include those rendered to leading international news agencies in accordance with contracts signed with them, active membership in international news clubs, up-to-date news stories on the country supplied internationally through its International News Line, and an active presence in the Internet through its Persian, English and Arabic websites. For its services, IRNA is aided by a huge professional core of executive and administrative staff who work inside and outside the country in its various local, regional and overseas branches. It also takes full advantage of stringers around the globe and has an organizational set-up that allows all its facilities to be used inside or outside the country on contractual arrangement. In order to effectively carry out its responsibilities it has set up the following guidelines: Mass production and dissemination of news and informative material taking into account its main objective of promoting the interests and objectives of the Islamic Republic of Iran. ____ You're such a sucker. Hoffman is not a historian or scholar. He's an author. I suppose Tom Clancy is a scholar as well? Irving has lost a lot clout over the years. Serge Thion is a prominnet scholar, since when? Kaminski is just an "internet journalist." How is he exactly prominent? Who the hell is Henry Rock? Do you even know?
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Post by nymos on Jan 6, 2006 20:04:12 GMT -5
Anodyne, I think you misunderstood our friend Duke's intentions. He just wanted to remind us that there are many idiots, haters, bigots, racists in the world, by showing us the kind of filth that they spew. And that we should remember the attrocity committed by such people, so that it shall never happen again. For that, I thank you Duke. You're a great human being.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 6, 2006 21:03:31 GMT -5
LOL! You do realize where your article comes from correct? www.irna.ir/en/content/view/menu-240/id-24/You should have gone back and checked on them. Here, I did it for you. From their website: www.irna.ir/en/content/view/menu-240/id-24/ It's not a respectable source. It's just a government mouth piece. Guidelines The professional activities of the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) are based on and aimed at securing the Islamic Republic of Iran's national interests. Efforts of management and professional personnel of IRNA are thus focused on achieving higher ground each day n fulfillment of its stated goal. The organization functions as the "mother source of information dissemination" within the country, feeding its authorities, nationals and various publications with various types of news, bulletins, research works, opinion polls and stories of general interest through its various telex lines. It also provides link-up channels for online foreign dispatches and photographs around the clock. IRNA's external services include those rendered to leading international news agencies in accordance with contracts signed with them, active membership in international news clubs, up-to-date news stories on the country supplied internationally through its International News Line, and an active presence in the Internet through its Persian, English and Arabic websites. For its services, IRNA is aided by a huge professional core of executive and administrative staff who work inside and outside the country in its various local, regional and overseas branches. It also takes full advantage of stringers around the globe and has an organizational set-up that allows all its facilities to be used inside or outside the country on contractual arrangement. In order to effectively carry out its responsibilities it has set up the following guidelines: Mass production and dissemination of news and informative material taking into account its main objective of promoting the interests and objectives of the Islamic Republic of Iran. ____ You're such a sucker. Hoffman is not a historian or scholar. He's an author. I suppose Tom Clancy is a scholar as well? Irving has lost a lot clout over the years. Serge Thion is a prominnet scholar, since when? Kaminski is just an "internet journalist." How is he exactly prominent? Who the hell is Henry Rock? Do you even know? Same old anti-relativist nonsense. You can believe anything you want and convince yourself that anything that isn't suckled and reared by corrupted and alien infiltrated American media, is therefore untruthful. You can "refute" anyone else with this so-called "argument", however, don't preach it to me. I already said this.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 6, 2006 21:07:17 GMT -5
Anodyne, I think you misunderstood our friend Duke's intentions. He just wanted to remind us that there are many idiots, haters, bigots, racists in the world, by showing us the kind of filth that they spew. And that we should remember the attrocity committed by such people, so that it shall never happen again. For that, I thank you Duke. You're a great human being. They're called zionists
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Post by nymos on Jan 6, 2006 21:24:17 GMT -5
Anodyne, I think you misunderstood our friend Duke's intentions. He just wanted to remind us that there are many idiots, haters, bigots, racists in the world, by showing us the kind of filth that they spew. And that we should remember the attrocity committed by such people, so that it shall never happen again. For that, I thank you Duke. You're a great human being. They're called zionists I believe you're mistaken here my dear Duke. The term Zionist means "a supporter of the State of Israel and it's right to exist." The people mentioned in the article are definitely no zionists. I suggest you look for a better term. Or you can look at the terms I've used in my first post. Regards.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 6, 2006 21:35:08 GMT -5
I believe you're mistaken here my dear Duke. The term Zionist means "a supporter of the State of Israel and it's right to exist." The people mentioned in the article are definitely no zionists. I suggest you look for a better term. Or you can look at the terms I've used in my first post. Regards. Article??? "there are many idiots, haters, bigots, racists in the world"
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Post by anodyne on Jan 7, 2006 5:15:54 GMT -5
LOL! You do realize where your article comes from correct? www.irna.ir/en/content/view/menu-240/id-24/You should have gone back and checked on them. Here, I did it for you. From their website: www.irna.ir/en/content/view/menu-240/id-24/ It's not a respectable source. It's just a government mouth piece. Guidelines The professional activities of the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) are based on and aimed at securing the Islamic Republic of Iran's national interests. Efforts of management and professional personnel of IRNA are thus focused on achieving higher ground each day n fulfillment of its stated goal. The organization functions as the "mother source of information dissemination" within the country, feeding its authorities, nationals and various publications with various types of news, bulletins, research works, opinion polls and stories of general interest through its various telex lines. It also provides link-up channels for online foreign dispatches and photographs around the clock. IRNA's external services include those rendered to leading international news agencies in accordance with contracts signed with them, active membership in international news clubs, up-to-date news stories on the country supplied internationally through its International News Line, and an active presence in the Internet through its Persian, English and Arabic websites. For its services, IRNA is aided by a huge professional core of executive and administrative staff who work inside and outside the country in its various local, regional and overseas branches. It also takes full advantage of stringers around the globe and has an organizational set-up that allows all its facilities to be used inside or outside the country on contractual arrangement. In order to effectively carry out its responsibilities it has set up the following guidelines: Mass production and dissemination of news and informative material taking into account its main objective of promoting the interests and objectives of the Islamic Republic of Iran. ____ You're such a sucker. Hoffman is not a historian or scholar. He's an author. I suppose Tom Clancy is a scholar as well? Irving has lost a lot clout over the years. Serge Thion is a prominnet scholar, since when? Kaminski is just an "internet journalist." How is he exactly prominent? Who the hell is Henry Rock? Do you even know? Same old anti-relativist nonsense. You can believe anything you want and convince yourself that anything that isn't suckled and reared by corrupted and alien infiltrated American media, is therefore untruthful. You can "refute" anyone else with this so-called "argument", however, don't preach it to me. I already said this. I'm not preaching anything to you. I'm mocking you, in fact. How can anyone take you seriously if you're going to post an article from an news source that wears its bias on its sleeve. They tell you right off the bat they're bias! To say that American media has been corrupted by "alien infiltration" is rather obtuse. Are you attempting to say that the editors of the Washigton Post and the Washington Times have the same inclinations, for example? If you believe so then I'll mail you a copy of both and you'll see the difference, or just check online. Overall there is an anti- Bush vibe going on in the American media. You believe Bush is a Zionist pawn, correct? So wouldn't it make sense for people in the media to let up on Bush if it was the Zionists who ran our media?
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 7, 2006 6:59:44 GMT -5
Same old anti-relativist nonsense. You can believe anything you want and convince yourself that anything that isn't suckled and reared by corrupted and alien infiltrated American media, is therefore untruthful. You can "refute" anyone else with this so-called "argument", however, don't preach it to me. I already said this. I'm not preaching anything to you. I'm mocking you, in fact. How can anyone take you seriously if you're going to post an article from an news source that wears its bias on its sleeve. They tell you right off the bat they're bias! To say that American media has been corrupted by "alien infiltration" is rather obtuse. Are you attempting to say that the editors of the Washigton Post and the Washington Times have the same inclinations, for example? If you believe so then I'll mail you a copy of both and you'll see the difference, or just check online. Overall there is an anti- Bush vibe going on in the American media. You believe Bush is a Zionist pawn, correct? So wouldn't it make sense for people in the media to let up on Bush if it was the Zionists who ran our media?
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Post by anodyne on Jan 7, 2006 7:15:58 GMT -5
I'm not preaching anything to you. I'm mocking you, in fact. How can anyone take you seriously if you're going to post an article from an news source that wears its bias on its sleeve. They tell you right off the bat they're bias! To say that American media has been corrupted by "alien infiltration" is rather obtuse. Are you attempting to say that the editors of the Washigton Post and the Washington Times have the same inclinations, for example? If you believe so then I'll mail you a copy of both and you'll see the difference, or just check online. Overall there is an anti- Bush vibe going on in the American media. You believe Bush is a Zionist pawn, correct? So wouldn't it make sense for people in the media to let up on Bush if it was the Zionists who ran our media? It would be more likely for me to stop posting in this thread if I received a logical answer.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 7, 2006 8:57:03 GMT -5
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 7, 2006 19:44:23 GMT -5
It would be more likely for me to stop posting in this thread if I received a logical answer. Stupid accusations aren't questions.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 7, 2006 19:51:06 GMT -5
Yes, that is I. The American Christian.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 7, 2006 19:55:53 GMT -5
LOL, how is that an accusation? I'm just curious. The individual in question at politicalforum.org is 1) called The Duke.. similar to your own name 2) is Canadian.. like yourself 3) is interested in the same subject matter 4) posted a thread about topic you've brought up before 4) also has a similar typing style and attitude. I'm just curious. This isn't the inquisition. I don't post there, nor do I plan to, if that's what you're worried about
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 7, 2006 19:58:40 GMT -5
LOL, how is that an accusation? I'm just curious. The individual in question at politicalforum.org is 1) called The Duke.. similar to your own name 2) is Canadian.. like yourself 3) is interested in the same subject matter 4) posted a thread about topic you've brought up before 4) also has a similar typing style and attitude. I'm just curious. This isn't the inquisition. I don't post there, nor do I plan to, if that's what you're worried about A canadian with a signature of an american flag with "one nation under god" superimposed on it.
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