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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 21:19:54 GMT -5
Vicente Fox is doing a terrible job as president because most Mexicans still want to leave Mexico because of the very high unemployment rate there.I remember on O'Reilly he was reading some statistics on Mexico that said 48% of the population in Mexico live below the poverty line man 48% thats a very high percentage.
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Post by Educate Me on Dec 30, 2005 21:22:52 GMT -5
here it is 38, and was around 54 in 2001 during the economic collapse
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Post by wadad on Dec 30, 2005 21:24:41 GMT -5
Question: Was America more prosperous or less--before the recent avalanche of illegal aliens? Answer: America was more prosperous 50 years ago, when Americans did all the jobs now taken over by illegal aliens. I love listening to the propaganda of the Left, that America would die without illegal aliens, that fruit wouldn't be picked, that all civilization would end instantly if undocumented workers disappeared. Funny, I remember the same arguments being made by racists who didn't want to abolish slavery. If we freed the blacks, then all industry would stop, all progress would grind to a halt. Thank God no one listened to the slave masters. Because the cotton crop actually increased after slavery was abolished. It didn't diminish; production soared. Why? Innovation. Something called the cotton-gin. The cotton-gin existed for years, but slave-masters didn't want to bother with innovation. Why trouble yourself? Just like Rome, the greatest labor-saving device was the slave. So why innovate? Meanwhile the cotton-gin sat on the shelf as lazy slave-masters whipped captive Africans. When the slaves were freed, they were forced to fall back upon innovation; and--wonder of wonders!--production increased. It was higher after the Civil War than before. And you know what? --It was done without slaves and with zero Mexicans. America grew into the world's industrial giant, came into unexampled prosperity . . .and all without black slaves or Mexicans. So don't buy the lie: We need slaves or all industry will grind to a halt. It's the old slave-master's rhetoric, and we as a society have to decide what we want: The cotton-gin, or a South American-style two-tiered society with white masters and docile brown Indians picking fruit; do we want a 21st Century economy based on innovation, technology and industrialization, or do we want a 19th Century economy based on slavery . . . with the difference that we're replacing Ol' Black Joe with Li'l Brown Julio? P.S.--I just smile when they say we "need" illegals. I'd believe it, too . . . if only I didn't know that America was far more prosperous and economically sound 50 years-ago than today . . . that all the work got done by Americans, and that no one was "too good" to do work--as East-Coast intellectuals (who are disconnected from America's traditional Protestant work-ethic) blather out propaganda that's more fit for Israel than for Nebraska. America was more prosperous 50 years ago? LOL But I agree with what you've said, we all know illegal immigration like slavery is subsidized labor. its cheaper on the corporation, just like slavery was cheaper for the plantations...And I think its the tax payer who is subsidizing for all these neo-slaves, so I agree with you completely there. However, just like the millions of ex-slaves werent dumped back to Africa after emancipiattion, Im 100% positive the millions of illegals will not be repatriated. Look as long as employers of illegals, like Walmart or even households get away with hiring them, the American worker will continue subzidizing for this new slave class. As this new slave caste grows and grows, can we blame them for voluntarily enterring into slavery to seek oppurtinity? American citizens should demand illegal alien employers be arrested, fined and jailed to dry up the jobs for illegal alien slaves. And you must also close up your borders. But the illegals that are inside, you guys cannot continue treating them like slaves. As their numbers grow they will take over entire neighborhoods, schools and cities. Functionally illiterate in English, they create their own city-states and barrios separate from Americans. These new slaves multiply by three million annually as they cross the borders untouched. Also clearly, this slave class grows beyond anyone’s wildest expectations. What happened in 1865 because of the big slave class? War ripped apart your country. What happened in 1964? Riots and murder. It only takes a spark to incite civil unrest.
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Post by wadad on Dec 30, 2005 21:31:40 GMT -5
Vicente Fox is doing a terrible job as president because most Mexicans still want to leave Mexico because of the very high unemployment rate there.I remember on O'Reilly he was reading some statistics on Mexico that said 48% of the population in Mexico live below the poverty line man 48% thats a very high percentage. Vicente Fox is very clever man...he is dumping his poorest of the poor in the USA, thus easing unemployment at home while at the same time repatriations and investments from the Mexicans back into Mexico adds into their economy...Its a win-win for Mexico.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 30, 2005 21:42:16 GMT -5
The only ones prospering from all the illegal immigrants are the Upper class elites and their buddies in the Corporations..the entire middle class is being systematically destroyed here in the States. Their shifting most of our production and jobs to East Asia namely Communist China and Japan which is a very critical problem.
On top of this,they have us buying back our own products.
First thing that must happen is the cleaning of the political elite,Democrats(Liberals) and Republicans(conservatives)need to be ousted,they are all in bed with eachother. Then we can change the immigration woes,cause as long as these suckers are in charge,the world will go to the pits,as it is currently.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 21:46:07 GMT -5
Crimson do you vote independent.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 30, 2005 21:47:17 GMT -5
Yep...
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 21:50:52 GMT -5
I don't see the Democrats and the Republicans unleashing their monopoly on the White House anytime soon factor that along with the fact that most voters in America not are not comfortable with the idea of an Independent in the White House.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 30, 2005 21:51:37 GMT -5
Question: Was America more prosperous or less--before the recent avalanche of illegal aliens? Answer: America was more prosperous 50 years ago, when Americans did all the jobs now taken over by illegal aliens. I love listening to the propaganda of the Left, that America would die without illegal aliens, that fruit wouldn't be picked, that all civilization would end instantly if undocumented workers disappeared. Funny, I remember the same arguments being made by racists who didn't want to abolish slavery. If we freed the blacks, then all industry would stop, all progress would grind to a halt. Thank God no one listened to the slave masters. Because the cotton crop actually increased after slavery was abolished. It didn't diminish; production soared. Why? Innovation. Something called the cotton-gin. The cotton-gin existed for years, but slave-masters didn't want to bother with innovation. Why trouble yourself? Just like Rome, the greatest labor-saving device was the slave. So why innovate? Meanwhile the cotton-gin sat on the shelf as lazy slave-masters whipped captive Africans. When the slaves were freed, they were forced to fall back upon innovation; and--wonder of wonders!--production increased. It was higher after the Civil War than before. And you know what? --It was done without slaves and with zero Mexicans. America grew into the world's industrial giant, came into unexampled prosperity . . .and all without black slaves or Mexicans. So don't buy the lie: We need slaves or all industry will grind to a halt. It's the old slave-master's rhetoric, and we as a society have to decide what we want: The cotton-gin, or a South American-style two-tiered society with white masters and docile brown Indians picking fruit; do we want a 21st Century economy based on innovation, technology and industrialization, or do we want a 19th Century economy based on slavery . . . with the difference that we're replacing Ol' Black Joe with Li'l Brown Julio? The argument is stupid anyways. What they predictably never include is the so called "needed" aliens, and their bogging down of health care system that are supposed to be tending to actual taxpaying citizens and not aliens. Or their presence being synonymous with an increase of unemployment and with the sponging and subsequnt degeneracy of a slew of other national social programsm. last but not least, of course is the astonishing increase of crime. Which they do even more brazenly than your average criminal, seeing as they have no real identity, when it gets to hot all they need do is jump the border again. Which sadly is all to true. I recently saw an America detective show Called "first 48 hours" where a group of drug dealing Mexicans tortured and killed a neighbor in the condominium complex because he complained to the landlord about them drug dealing. Of course they never gave real names or anything and most likely headed south after the crime, and for this reason were never arrested. It's completely unreal how people can argue of behalf of aliens.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 30, 2005 21:54:15 GMT -5
I don't see the Democrats and the Republicans unleashing their monopoly on the White House anytime soon factor that along with the fact that most voters in America not are not comfortable with the idea of an Independent in the White House. of coarse they wont,and with all the voting fraud abundant,they never will. But atleast when I do vote,its not for any of these fakes.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 21:58:24 GMT -5
So you voted for the Leb in the last presidential elections.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 30, 2005 22:00:44 GMT -5
Didnt vote at all,,didnt like anybody!
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Post by Drooperdoo on Dec 30, 2005 22:02:40 GMT -5
Educate_Me, I agree: The Free-Trade Agreement nonsense is a scam. It's just another globalist scheme to keep poor countries poor and to pad the pockets of a very few people in the rich countries. Read this excellent article on the myth of Free-Trade Agreement prosperity: business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1664984,00.html P.S.--The United States is tanking economically, because it's not creating a sustainable economy. It's trying to cling to a 19th-Century paradigm of slaves-in-the-fields. Meanwhile Germany, Japan and countries like that are creating 21st Century economies based on technology and innovation. They don't see the obscene wealth of the United States, but that wealth is illusory. What little of it is real is attained not through capitalism and competition, but through phony Free-Trade Agreements and threats of military intervention. It's a house of cards. Whereas France, Germany, Japan, and--increasingly--China have much more sustainable economies. They're growing. The only thing keeping the US above water is its military. But even that won't do anything to save the crashing dollar once oil starts being traded in Euros. America will be a Third World country over night--and millions of Americans will wake up to the house-of-cards economy we had all along.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 30, 2005 22:04:41 GMT -5
That what is all boils down to Technocratic Corporate Empire , Globalization.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 22:06:03 GMT -5
Drooperdoo Germany and France won't stay on top for long if they don't limit the number of Turks and North Africans that can enter their country.
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