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Post by gelaye on Nov 14, 2005 15:34:48 GMT -5
Ok, here in London there has been like a mass immigration of Polish workers like no other. I have noticed that alot of the males seem to have what i would call 'extreme brachycephalisation' as in the back of their heads are almost pancake flat (as well as being stocky and wide) - why is this so?
Also they have very good bone structure lol any reason for this?
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Post by Drooperdoo on Nov 14, 2005 15:40:14 GMT -5
Gelaye, lol Nazis used the flat-head feature as a "typical Jewish" trait. My wife says that, rather than being genetic, it can be a sign of neglect in infancy. Baby-skulls are soft and capable of being shaped (hence the Incan love of skull-deformity-to-designate-caste). In infants who are left for prolonged periods on their backs, a certain flatness can develop on the back of the head. Some pediatricians actually have helmets for babies who succumb to flattening. Since my wife told me about the phenomenon, I've noticed a preponderance of the feature on poor people, or individuals from sub-standard backgrounds--orphanages, foster homes, etc. Perhaps many of the Poles you saw have it for the same reason: They're from poverty-stricken backgrounds and had neglectful alcoholic parents. But we all know that Third World former-Soviet block Slavic nations know nothing of alcoholism or child-neglect. lol
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Post by Glenlivet on Nov 14, 2005 18:41:36 GMT -5
Drooperdoo, you are just full of prejudice.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Nov 14, 2005 21:02:35 GMT -5
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha
As Socrates said, "You know me well, sir!"
* For the record, though, aren't we all filled with prejudices about various things? What a boring world this would be if God didn't give us so many things to ridicule and mock!
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Post by aroundtheworld on Nov 14, 2005 21:37:27 GMT -5
He is right. Flat heads are common in neglected children. My head is flat in the back, too! LOL j/k
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Post by Polako on Nov 15, 2005 6:37:10 GMT -5
Ok, here in London there has been like a mass immigration of Polish workers like no other. I have noticed that alot of the males seem to have what i would call 'extreme brachycephalisation' as in the back of their heads are almost pancake flat (as well as being stocky and wide) - why is this so? Also they have very good bone structure lol any reason for this? The older the generation, the more brachycephalic (flat-headed) they are in eastern Europe. No one really knows why. I've seen similar reports on Poles and Czechs. This process is especially evident in Poland, even southern Poland, in children.
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Post by Polako on Nov 15, 2005 6:40:18 GMT -5
Not that flat heads are uncommon among Brits. I see plenty of Brits like Wayne Rooney. Shrek-like facial features, and flat heads. ;D
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Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Nov 15, 2005 9:34:55 GMT -5
Ok, here in London there has been like a mass immigration of Polish workers like no other. I have noticed that alot of the males seem to have what i would call 'extreme brachycephalisation' as in the back of their heads are almost pancake flat (as well as being stocky and wide) - why is this so? Also they have very good bone structure lol any reason for this? poland people - normal fluid europids, they must have their own conspicuous features - although there are several europid groups with conspicuous features; still normal fluid ordinary europids in the main - dawid89biatch.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/team.jpg intra european europids = greater fluidity.
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Nov 15, 2005 10:20:37 GMT -5
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051104/ap_on_re_eu/poland_copernicusThu Nov 3, 7:46 PM ET WARSAW, Poland - Polish archeologists believe they have located the grave of 16th-century astronomer and solar-system proponent Nicolaus Copernicus in a Polish church, one of the scientists announced Thursday. Copernicus, who died in 1543 at 70 after challenging the ancient belief that the sun revolved around the earth, was buried at the Roman Catholic cathedral in the city of Frombork, 180 miles north of the capital, Warsaw. Jerzy Gassowski, head of an archaeology and anthropology institute in Pultusk, central Poland, said his four-member team found what appears to be the skull of the Polish astronomer and clergyman in August, after a one-year search of tombs under the church floor. "We can be almost 100 percent sure this is Copernicus," Gassowski told The Associated Press by phone after making the announcement during a meeting of scientists. Gassowski said police forensic experts used the skull to reconstruct a face that closely resembled the features — including a broken nose and scar above the left eye — on a Copernicus self-portrait. The experts also determined the skull belonged to a man who died at about age 70. The grave was in bad condition and not all remains were found, Gassowski said, adding that his team will try to find relatives of Copernicus to do more accurate DNA identification.
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Post by Glenlivet on Nov 15, 2005 12:34:44 GMT -5
There is quite a lot of lambdoid flattening in southern Ireland. You can even see it among young boys. I think Rooney is of Irish descent. I have noticed the same among older Poles. Did they practise any cradling in Poland? The older generation is also shorter and more squat. Not that flat heads are uncommon among Brits. I see plenty of Brits like Wayne Rooney. Shrek-like facial features, and flat heads. ;D
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Post by Liquid Len on Nov 15, 2005 16:49:53 GMT -5
It's mostly Borreby influence, perhaps some Dinarics, too.
EDIT: I was referring to the Poles.
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Post by hit on Nov 16, 2005 6:44:26 GMT -5
Gelaye, lol Nazis used the flat-head feature as a "typical Jewish" trait. My wife says that, rather than being genetic, it can be a sign of neglect in infancy. Baby-skulls are soft and capable of being shaped (hence the Incan love of skull-deformity-to-designate-caste). In infants who are left for prolonged periods on their backs, a certain flatness can develop on the back of the head. Some pediatricians actually have helmets for babies who succumb to flattening. Since my wife told me about the phenomenon, I've noticed a preponderance of the feature on poor people, or individuals from sub-standard backgrounds--orphanages, foster homes, etc. Perhaps many of the Poles you saw have it for the same reason: They're from poverty-stricken backgrounds and had neglectful alcoholic parents. But we all know that Third World former-Soviet block Slavic nations know nothing of alcoholism or child-neglect. lol Gee. People are stupid, aren't they. In Eastern Europe, women who gave birth to babes spent couple of days or a week in a hospital with their babies. Babies were kept separately. Nurses put kids on their back so they wouldn't choke during the sleep.
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 2, 2005 20:20:14 GMT -5
This thread surely show how stupid and ignorant people here are with regards to even basic anthropology.
The flat back of the head has nothing to do with any rich-poor disparity, nor any after the birth hospital care.
It is a genetic physical feature characteristic of both the East Baltics and Armenoids (and Denarics?); since many Poles are East Baltic/"Neo-Danubian" it is not surprising that this feature is prominent among the general Polish population.
Therefore, it is genetic/racial, not environmental.
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Post by Polako on Dec 3, 2005 17:23:41 GMT -5
Therefore, it is genetic/racial, not environmental. It's environmental. Do some reading FROM this century.
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 3, 2005 19:10:41 GMT -5
Plenty of verbiage, but does it really prove anything?
Perhaps there might be some minor environmental influences, but in general this trait is genetic.
I seriously doubt that two people, both with a flat back of the head, can somehow produce a child with a very protruding head back.
It just won't happen.
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