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Post by Ilmatar on Jul 19, 2005 2:05:43 GMT -5
I actually think that many Nordic people would look much hairier if the hair was darker. Fine, fair hair isn't that visible. My fathar, on the other hand, has a very dark hair for a Finn, and loads of it too. He has also had a beard since he was 19 (it was in the late 60's), and his beard has always been quite thick and covered his cheeks.
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Post by jp13323 on Jul 19, 2005 12:24:03 GMT -5
I am of Western European descent and I would say I am moderately hairy. My facial hair is red,brown and blonde while my regular hair on my head is black. Yeah it makes no sense.
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Post by greatness on Jul 19, 2005 12:57:43 GMT -5
facial and body hair is something which varies a lot not only in between races but within a race as well. Iranids and Armenoids have a lot of hair. Turks, Arabs, and most Mediterraneans have moderated amounts of body and facial hair. Northern Europeans have even less. Though I have met some blonde individuals who were very hairy, the majority do not have much hair. Mongolids have even less facial hair.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jul 21, 2005 3:48:04 GMT -5
I actually think that many Nordic people would look much hairier if the hair was darker. Fine, fair hair isn't that visible. I second that. I've seen my share of Nordic women who're hairy enough to look like bears, had the hair been dark. But since it's fair, no one really notices (unless sunlight shines on the hairs). I have average amount of hair on my arms, but since my skin is white and the hair is dark I look hairier than the polarbears around me.
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Post by asdf on Jul 21, 2005 20:24:13 GMT -5
I shouldn't have to prove it. Anyone who knows anything about the Ainu know that they are famous for their hairiness, not only in relationship to the Mongoloids, but to the Caucasoids they were often erroneously associated with. Look at pictures of the old Australoid-looking Ainu the Japanese depicted and you'll get the picture of why I think they are the hairiest. I've heard a lot of talk about how hairy they are, and you still hear plenty of the time that they're caucasoid. I don't really trust. I can't find very many old pictures of them, but from what I've seen, they don't seem any hairier than caucasoids: libweb.uoregon.edu/speccoll/photo/warner/assets/PH014_40-03.jpgAll I'm seeing is that they grow their hair long.
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jul 21, 2005 22:36:50 GMT -5
Those Ainus are mixed with Japanese, and consequently not as hairy as they once were hundreds of years back. If you want to see a reversion to the ancient Ainu type just find the picture of human2 when he hasn't shaved his back!
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Post by asdf on Jul 21, 2005 23:01:46 GMT -5
Yeah, well, 1852 was as far back as I could go, for obvious reasons. Are there actual descriptions of Ainu being hairier than caucasoids or not?
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jul 21, 2005 23:26:34 GMT -5
I have seen on this board posts which contain both photographs of Ainus and pictorial representations on Ainu and Japanese which show Ainu to be particularly hairy. You understand that the difference in hairiness between humans and the genders is mainly due to size and pigmentation of the hair not the actual numbers of hair on the body. The Ainu may in fact be as hairy, as far as numbers of hairs go, as Europeans but having much longer individual hairs. The pictures are in the thread about mongoloids that Agrippa and human2 went on and on about some time back.
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Post by asdf on Jul 21, 2005 23:39:41 GMT -5
Aren't mongoloid hairs thicker than caucasoid hairs?
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Post by Mimers on Jul 22, 2005 11:52:57 GMT -5
Aren't mongoloid hairs thicker than caucasoid hairs? No, not necessarily. Not body hair...but the hair on their head is the strongest and most resilient hair. It is known that the best quality hair for making wigs is asian hair becuase it can through terrible amounts of dying, processing, etc. and still comes out looking great. That hair is can resist more to chemical/heat/etc damage.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jul 23, 2005 2:20:07 GMT -5
Aren't mongoloid hairs thicker than caucasoid hairs? No, not necessarily. Not body hair...but the hair on their head is the strongest and most resilient hair. It is known that the best quality hair for making wigs is asian hair becuase it can through terrible amounts of dying, processing, etc. and still comes out looking great. That hair is can resist more to chemical/heat/etc damage. I think you mean Indian hair. Hair from Indian females is treated and dyed and shipped off to Europe to become wigs. Mongoloid hair is rather brittle and sensitive to hair chemicals.
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Post by Klink dan en daverje on Jul 23, 2005 17:58:17 GMT -5
I think that facial (chest/legs/back) hair growth hasn't to do much with races as: Alpine, Mediteranean, Nordic, Dinaric, Armenian, etc.
But more with the persceptive of lowlands or highlands.
People on the highlands of Scotland or Norway are much likely (measured in averages) to have more hair as people from Holland or Jutland.
As counts for Morrocans of the coast or Morroco or the mountains of Morocco(etc for Turks and more countries)
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jul 27, 2005 15:22:13 GMT -5
The Ainu are only hairy compared to other Asiatics. Compared to Caucasians, they're not anywhere near the hairiest. In fact, I've heard that the term "Ainu" means "hairy". But as I said: Hairy is a relative term. To a Japanese person, a 6 year-old Italian girl is hairy.
Has anyone ever seen an Ainu as hairy as Robin Williams? I seriously doubt it. But hairiness like that is the rule among so many Iranians and Mediterraneans. Carpets of greasy back-hair and ape-tufts hanging from every "pit".
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jul 27, 2005 15:30:35 GMT -5
Annunaki, Indians are Asian. In genetic tests, their closest relatives are the Tibetans to the north. And their second-closest genetic relatives are Austroloids to the south. The most Caucasoid Indians [in the north] have at the highest rate 30% Caucasoid dna admixture--and that's only among the men. And only among very few of them. The invaders didn't bring women. So Indian mtdna is just about purely Asian. I mean, if your closest genetic relative is a Tibetan, you're Mongoloid.
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Post by asdf on Jul 27, 2005 16:01:47 GMT -5
Dude, she was talking about not
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