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Post by slick on Jun 9, 2005 22:25:03 GMT -5
Does anyone have any genetic information on French Canadians, Haitians, Creoles, and Cajuns? I am assuming that genetically Haitians will be closer to Creoles than they would French Canadians and Cajuns. On the other hand, I am also assuming that Creoles and Cajuns will genetically be closer to one another considering that they have similar ancestries, yet Cajuns would have more European genetic markers than most Creoles. I am also assuming that Cajuns and French Canadians will have more similar genetics because the Cajuns were descended from a group of French Canadians called the Acadians. Yet will there be any large amount of African as well as Amerindian DNA in French Canadians, since some are metis? What influence or impact would culture have on DNA; I'm not talking about race, but culture? Did the Cajuns intermarry with Creoles for example?
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jun 10, 2005 0:47:12 GMT -5
French Canadians, Arcadians and Cajuns have high rates of certain genetic diseases. For example, the incidence of Tay-Sachs is as high in French Canadians and Cajuns as in the Ashkenazim Jewry. I do not think it is the result of mixing with the native peoples. The Cajuns are triracial but the negroid component is rather small - anyway, the Cajuns don't want to elucidate. Haitians seem to be practically full on African negroids except for some of the "upper classes". The other part of the island seems to be more mixed. Never met or seen an American Creole in the flesh. Don't know anything about them. They sound very interesting. I bet they have great food.
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Post by Tataline on Jun 10, 2005 12:40:59 GMT -5
Did the Cajuns intermarry with Creoles for example? Initially no, for class reasons. Ultimately, white Creoles did intermarry with Cajuns while Creoles of Color generally did not.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jun 10, 2005 12:48:40 GMT -5
Wasn't there a rather sizeable Spanish community mixed in with the French, from the time when Louisiana kept going back and forth between colonial Spain and colonial France? I was reading some novel by Kate Chopin and about 1/3 of the surnames of the wealthy Louisianans were Spanish. I seem to remember the Spanish colony of Florida--the length of its panhandle originally stretched across southern Georgia, Alabama and reached as far as Baton Rouge. Is this incorrect?
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Post by cybers on Jun 10, 2005 15:37:31 GMT -5
Does anyone have any genetic information on French Canadians, Haitians, Creoles, and Cajuns? I am assuming that genetically Haitians will be closer to Creoles than they would French Canadians and Cajuns. On the other hand, I am also assuming that Creoles and Cajuns will genetically be closer to one another considering that they have similar ancestries, yet Cajuns would have more European genetic markers than most Creoles. I am also assuming that Cajuns and French Canadians will have more similar genetics because the Cajuns were descended from a group of French Canadians called the Acadians. Yet will there be any large amount of African as well as Amerindian DNA in French Canadians, since some are metis? What influence or impact would culture have on DNA; I'm not talking about race, but culture? Did the Cajuns intermarry with Creoles for example? French Canadians probably have more Amerindian blood than any other European ethnic group in North America. But I don't see how they could have gotten any African DNA.
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Post by Melani2333 on Jun 10, 2005 16:09:36 GMT -5
Did the Cajuns intermarry with Creoles for example? Initially no, for class reasons. Ultimately, white Creoles did intermarry with Cajuns while Creoles of Color generally did not. Nowadays white Creoles and white Cajuns are one and the same people. ;D Creoles are often referred to as "Black Cajuns", so yes, there is some overlap. Frenchies
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Post by slick on Jun 11, 2005 23:48:41 GMT -5
You know, melani, that little girl looks a lot like Angelina Jolie. Well her mother is French, no?
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Post by Mimers on Jun 12, 2005 1:39:57 GMT -5
French Canadians are mostly descendents of the French (and later Irish), and yes there a decent number of metis. Throughout history, other groups came to Canada, they became canandians and those who live in the province of Quebec are now "french canadians". Cajuns retained the french language and probably some of the culture, etc., but are very different from french canadians today since the french were exiled from lower canada and then went to the States, and since, their genetic make-up has changed through time living there. I'll dig-up some info though, maybe it will be helpful Overview of Quebec: www2.marianopolis.edu/quebechistory/encyclopedia/QuebecProvinceof.htmHow others view Quebec: www2.marianopolis.edu/quebechistory/docs/views/index.htmEthnicity of Quebec: Canadian 68.7%, French 29.6%, Irish 4.1%, Italian 3.5%, English 3.1%, Scottish 2.2%, 1.8%, Quebecer 1.3%, German 1.2%, Jew 1.1%, Haitian 1.0% (2001)
Note: The 2001 Census offered options for ethnic origins have been highly questionned. Use data with care.
French 40.9%, Britton 9.1% (1996)2001 census data on Quebec: www.bcstats.gov.bc.ca/data/cen01/profiles/24000000.pdfOn metis in Canada: According to 1996 Census data: At the national level about 3% of the Canadian population or 799,010 individuals identified with an Aboriginal group. North American Indians represented 69.3% of this population. Ontario had the largest North American Indian population, Alberta the largest Metis population and the Northwest Territories had the largest Inuit population. Most of the Aboriginal population lived west of Quebec. Only 14% of Canada’s Aboriginal population lived in Atlantic Canada and Quebec. The provinces with the largest numbers of Aboriginals were Ontario, British Columbia and Manitoba.A little on Acadians: www.terrebonneparish.com/acadian-cajun/origin.htmwww.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/A/Ac/Acadia.htmBetween 1840 and 1930 roughly 900 000 French Canadians left Canada to emigrate to the United States. This important migration, which has now been largely forgotten in Quebec’s collective memory, is certainly one of the major events in Canadian demographic history. According to the 1980 American census, 13.6 million Americans claimed to have French ancestors. While a certain number of these people may be of French, Belgian, Swiss, Cajun or Huguenot ancestry, it is certain that a large proportion would have ancestors who emigrated from French Canada or Acadia during the 19th and 20th centuries.Nova Scotia: educationcanada.com/facts/index.phtml?sid=ns&a=3&lang=engQuebec: educationcanada.com/facts/index.phtml?sid=qc&a=3&lang=engWhat is Creole: In this context the word refers to people of any race or mixture thereof who are descended from settlers in Louisiana before it became part of the USA in 1803 with the Louisiana Purchase, or to the culture and cuisine typical of these people. Some writers from other parts of the USA have mistakenly assumed the term to refer only to people of mixed racial descent, but this is not the traditional Louisiana usage. In fact some locals, especially those of pure Spanish and French Creole descent, have often argued that the traditional usage excluded African lineage. However, Colonial era documents show that a broader usage of the term was already common by the late 18th century, with references to "free Creoles of Color" and even to slaves of pure African descent born in Louisiana as "Creole slaves". It is now accepted that Creole is a broad cultural group of people of all races who share a French or Spanish background. Louisianans who identify themselves as "Creole" are most commonly from historically Francophone communities with some ancestors who came to Louisiana either directly from France or via the French colonies in the Caribbean; those decended from the Acadians of French Canada are more likely to identify themselves as Cajun than Creole. Creole however is now usually still used to indentify a person of Spanish, French, or African origin. White or blacks can both be creoles. From: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CreolePhew!~ Hope this was informative Sorry for the length, I tried to cover every aspect!
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