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Post by Artemisia on Jan 11, 2004 15:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by Satyros on Jan 11, 2004 15:48:06 GMT -5
He is not the minister of foreign affairs any more. He is now the leader of PASOK the Panhellenic Sosialist Party and officialy the candidate of this party for prime minister in the March 7 elections.
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Post by Artemisia on Jan 11, 2004 17:53:46 GMT -5
He is not the minister of foreign affairs any more. He is now the leader of PASOK the Panhellenic Sosialist Party and officialy the candidate of this party for prime minister in the March 7 elections. Yes, I've been watching the news. I hope he looses because he is a real traitor (no offense to PASOK fans).
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Post by Satyros on Jan 14, 2004 17:52:24 GMT -5
Well, the PASOK fans themselves are not the best patriots, if you know what i mean. Its not only Bravo Yorgo! 's fault that he is a traitorous and unworthy politician. It is also the voters who will vote for him that are responsible for giving him the ability to do so much harm to the nation of Greeks and to our national dignity and sovereignity..
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Post by Artemisia on Jan 14, 2004 18:52:15 GMT -5
Well, the PASOK fans themselves are not the best patriots, if you know what i mean. Its not only Bravo Yorgo! 's fault that he is a traitorous and unworthy politician. It is also the voters who will vote for him that are responsible for giving him the ability to do so much harm to the nation of Greeks and to our national dignity and sovereignity.. I agree!!! If Yorgaki comes to power, bye-bye Greece! How could ANYONE suggest what Papandreou suggested: that the Greeks have to built a monument to the Persians who fell at Themopyle and Marathon. Only this little detail can confirm that he is a real traitor. Heck, why have the non-Greek Papandreou as Prime Minister of Greece? I dislike him so much that I'd rather have Hitler as Prime Minister of Greece than Papandreou (at least Hitler knew that he was German-Austrian, unlike Papandreou who doen't know what the heck he is!)
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Post by geirr on Jan 15, 2004 3:57:11 GMT -5
Well, the PASOK fans themselves are not the best patriots, if you know what i mean. Its not only Bravo Yorgo! 's fault that he is a traitorous and unworthy politician. It is also the voters who will vote for him that are responsible for giving him the ability to do so much harm to the nation of Greeks and to our national dignity and sovereignity.. I think you have it all wrong Satyros, Democracy is not about who is the most blindingly patriotic, thats so yesterday... its all about who has the nicest cut suit and best looking wife.
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Post by Satyros on Jan 15, 2004 8:49:17 GMT -5
Nice joke geirr, but i dont find this issue particularly funny, as it concerns the future of my homeland. Joke about something else.
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Post by geirr on Jan 15, 2004 9:09:36 GMT -5
Nice joke geirr, but i dont find this issue particularly funny, as it concerns the future of my homeland. Joke about something else. I wasn't joking, I was being satirical at your expense.
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Post by Satyros on Jan 15, 2004 9:37:30 GMT -5
I think you have it all wrong Satyros, Democracy is not about who is the most blindingly patriotic, thats so yesterday... its all about who has the nicest cut suit and best looking wife. Oh, you were being "satyrical" and it was "in my expense". Ok. But you have it wrong in your mind geirr. What you described as Democracy is actually the level to which Democracy, a Greek word and a Greek political concept, has been degraded to by non Greeks in our modern times. So you are actually being satyrical on yourself, as you dont have any clue to what Democracy actually is.
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Post by geirr on Jan 15, 2004 9:54:55 GMT -5
Oh, you were being "satyrical" and it was "in my expense". Ok. But you have it wrong in your mind geirr. What you described as Democracy is actually the level to which Democracy, a Greek word and a Greek political concept, has been degraded to by non Greeks in our modern times. So you are actually being satyrical on yourself, as you dont have any clue to what Democracy actually is. your a democrat? now thats are joke.
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Post by Satyros on Jan 15, 2004 12:09:06 GMT -5
your a democrat? now thats are joke. Sure i am a democrat geirr. I am a democrat when it is appropriate to be one and a non-democrat when it is not appropriate to be a democrat.
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Post by Praetor on Jan 15, 2004 15:01:28 GMT -5
Well, the PASOK fans themselves are not the best patriots, if you know what i mean. Its not only Bravo Yorgo! 's fault that he is a traitorous and unworthy politician. It is also the voters who will vote for him that are responsible for giving him the ability to do so much harm to the nation of Greeks and to our national dignity and sovereignity.. I 100% disagree. While I am allergic to daddy's boys (and dear Yiorgos is a perfect example) I find his foreign policy ultra succesful for nailing the turks in the diplomatic corner for only the second time since 1918. (first was in 1979 when Greece joined theEU) I don't wish to debate anyone so you won't see any more of my remarks in this thread. Just keep in mind. The biggest traitors are the ones who appear to scream and threaten for the sake of their fatherland. And dont forget that the Great Rebel for the Greek right wing,dictator Georgios Papadopoulos was the very first CIA agent who become prime minister of his country. Patridokapilia is the name...
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Post by Artemisia on Jan 15, 2004 15:26:06 GMT -5
Sure i am a democrat geirr. I am a democrat when it is appropriate to be one and a non-democrat when it is not appropriate to be a democrat. I agree with you Satyros! Foreigners will not teach the nation which invented democracy what is democratic and what is not. Geirr, go open some good history/political science books and look at what REAL democracy was and should be. Being patriotic is one of the definitions of being a democrat. Those who do not love their homeland should be ridiculed and should not enter politics. Look at what happened to Zoran Djinjic (spelling?) and Anna Lindt who went against their nations (Djinjic wanted to settle Kosovo with the Albanians; Lindt wanted to bring millions of foreign immigrants to Sweden.) Go against your country and it's assasination time for you!
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Post by Satyros on Jan 15, 2004 16:24:25 GMT -5
I 100% disagree. While I am allergic to daddy's boys (and dear Yiorgos is a perfect example) I find his foreign policy ultra succesful for nailing the turks in the diplomatic corner for only the second time since 1918. (first was in 1979 when Greece joined theEU) I don't wish to debate anyone so you won't see any more of my remarks in this thread. Just keep in mind. The biggest traitors are the ones who appear to scream and threaten for the sake of their fatherland. And dont forget that the Great Rebel for the Greek right wing,dictator Georgios Papadopoulos was the very first CIA agent who become prime minister of his country. Patridokapilia is the name... Praetor arxises tis malakies mou fainetai. To ksereis poly kala oti i moni eppityxia tou Papandreou itan oti den egine polemos epeidi leei panta "nai" se olous tous ksenous afentes mas. Einai ayto pragmatiki epityxia? Kata bathos ksereis oti i politiki tou Papandreou pou epikroteis, itan mia makra seira apo ittes kai ekseftelistikotates ypoxoriseis.... Opote ase tis paparies kai ase kai ta koloparamythakia tis Aristeras oti o Papadopoulos itane praktoras ton Amerikanon. Exeis apodeikseis oti itan praktoras tis CIA? Mprosta ston Yorgaki pou einai Amerikanos ypikoos kai ston patera tou pou itane Amerikanos kathigitis, o Papadopoulos itan aggeloudi. Aytes tis kseftiles kai ta paramythakia na pas na ta peis stous anagnostes tis eleytherotypias. Toulaxiston o Papadopoulos den proteine stous Ellines na baloune xasisi sta balkonia tous. As min arxiso na milao tora giati tha se parei o diaolos kai sena kai kapoious allous aristerodiethnistodianooumenous anthellines pou exoune katantisei tin Ellada ekei pou brisketai tora. Akoma kai oi Albanoi, oi Skopianoi kai oi Tourkoi exoune pio poly ETHNIKI aksioprepeia apo tous Ellines simera. Alla de se noiazei ayto Praetor, etsi? Esy tin exeis bolepsei me mia Filandeza kai tin exeis kanei apo tin Ellada, etsi den einai pallikara mou? O aytoekseftelismos kai oi ypoxoriseis den apoteloun diplomatiki epityxia. Eksigise mou giati itan epityxis diplomatis o Papandreou. p.s. Se kamia periptosi den eimai opados tou Papadopoulou. Den ezisa sti diarkeia tis Eptaetias kai ara den boro na krino, alla ayto pou ksero einai oti oi Aprilianoi sapisane kai pethanane stis fylakes epeidi etsi ithelan oi koloaristeroi pou exoun katastrepsei ti xora, eno kati paidakia san ton Yorgaki theorountai messies eno o rolos tous einai apeiros pio bromikos apo ayton ton ethnikiston. Perastika Praetor kai sou eyxomai xaroumeni zoi ektos Elladas. Ekso apo to xoro polla tragoudia leme.
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Post by geirr on Jan 16, 2004 0:16:53 GMT -5
Sure i am a democrat geirr. I am a democrat when it is appropriate to be one and a non-democrat when it is not appropriate to be a democrat. hypocracy is greek too, isn't it?
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