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Post by skord on Dec 12, 2003 17:46:56 GMT -5
For the Austrian thing, I wonder how you guys got there, could you guys explain? ;D Thanks! You have dark hair with a combination of pale skin,which is not uncommon in central Europe.I guessed Austria for the hell of it
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Post by rusalka on Dec 12, 2003 18:08:36 GMT -5
Alright. Besides, no one else is guessing anyways... ;D I was born in Istanbul, Turkey (making me naturally Turkish). The person that was right at the point was Praetor... My ancestry is not Albanian, but they are certainly Balkan. During the Ottoman times in the Balkans, my ancestors had farms in Western Thrace. After the Balkan Wars, however, my ancestors had to evacuate the area, and so they moved into Istanbul. So, how did you know my blood ran from the Balkans? For the Austrian thing, I wonder how you guys got there, could you guys explain? ;D Thanks! Well, someone else born in Istanbul, having his heritage in the Balkans. Very similar indeed. I have some of my ancestry hailing from Western Thrace, namely my maternal grandfather.
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Praetor
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Post by Praetor on Dec 12, 2003 18:43:55 GMT -5
Alright. Besides, no one else is guessing anyways... ;D I was born in Istanbul, Turkey (making me naturally Turkish). The person that was right at the point was Praetor... My ancestry is not Albanian, but they are certainly Balkan. During the Ottoman times in the Balkans, my ancestors had farms in Western Thrace. After the Balkan Wars, however, my ancestors had to evacuate the area, and so they moved into Istanbul. So, how did you know my blood ran from the Balkans? For the Austrian thing, I wonder how you guys got there, could you guys explain? ;D Thanks! I am anything but a specialist in guessing races but I am Greek which means i know pretty well the looks of my neighbours.That's why I was sure you were balkan.As for the albanian part you strongly resemble an albanian guy that used to work for me.Not big surprise after all there is a significant overlap between southern balkan area.You could be Greek too.
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 18:46:22 GMT -5
Balkan kizi ehh? Ben onu bilmiyordum...Neyse, Ingilisce konusma zamani ;D.
My grandparents from my dads side of the family are from Western Thrace, while only my grandmothers side of my moms side of the family is from the Balkans (My one grandfather being from Anatolia, making me 25% Anatolian Child ;D).
Hey rusalka, maybe my great-great grandfather, was either your great-great grandfathers friend across the village or even brother. ;D ;D
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 18:48:14 GMT -5
Very possible. I could also have Slavic blood in me as well; some people for some reason resemble me and my dad to Russians or other Slavs.
Nice observation by the way my friend.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 12, 2003 18:53:27 GMT -5
My grandparents from my dads side of the family are from Western Thrace, while only my grandmothers side of my moms side of the family is from the Balkans (My one grandfather being from Anatolia, making me 25% Anatolian Child ;D). Hey rusalka, maybe my great-great grandfather, was either your great-great grandfathers friend across the village or even brother. ;D ;D Well you never know, it's possible they could've known each other. I can't remember the name of the town they came from, I have to ask my grandmother if she remembers. I know that it's somewhere in the western part of present-day Bulgaria. They had to move to Istanbul because my great-grandfather and his brother; were rather troublesome youths and were taking part in local revolutionary groups. The Ottoman authorities, because they liked him, apparently warned my ggg-father (their father that is) and they sold whatever they had and relocated to the capital of the time. My maternal grandmother is Yugoslavian, my grandfather, like I said Bulgarian. My father's side of the family is from the Caucasus (Abkhazia) and again, Bulgaria (northern). More or less your typical Istanbulite.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 12, 2003 18:55:32 GMT -5
Very possible. I could also have Slavic blood in me as well; some people for some reason resemble me and my dad to Russians or other Slavs. Nice observation by the way my friend. Oh they were not ethnic Bulgarians? Were they ethnically Turkish people who were later located in the area? My family were of the local population. If yours were too, that gives you Slavic ancestry, because Bulgarians are almost all Slavicized from what I know.
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 19:03:40 GMT -5
I do not know the name of the town either, I better ask my grandma when I go back to Turkey this summer. And yup, ours is also located somewhere in present-day Bulgaria.
So, they were most likely with the Young Turk Organization ehh? Well, my situation is a little different than yours. My great-grandfather was beheaded when he was chopping wood, and then soon more enemy troops arrived, so my family decided to leave. My grandmothers-mother had so many stories, even though she passed away, my uncle remembers her stories and tells them to me.
Hehe, yeah, typical Istanbulite alright. We are just this mixed people that live in this beautiful city (I love Istanbul by the way). Which part of Istanbul were you born at anyway?
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 19:05:51 GMT -5
My were a mixture. I know that some of my family were ethnic Bulgarian, others were not. From me talking to others of my family in my dads side, there were couple ethnic Bulgarians in my family, giving me some characteristics of Slavs.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 12, 2003 19:11:06 GMT -5
I do not know the name of the town either, I better ask my grandma when I go back to Turkey this summer. And yup, ours is also located somewhere in present-day Bulgaria. So you don't live in Turkey? I was born and raised in Istanbul but now live in New York. Ooops, looks like we were on opposite sides then. No, not the Young Turks, the "other" guys, the gangs who were fighting for a seperate state. My ggg-father was a good and respected man though, so they "advised" him to take his sons and leave. I don't live there anymore, but when I was born in Kadikoy and raised there. I have family still living there, and in Tesvikiye.
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 19:20:25 GMT -5
Nope, my family left Turkey when I was 4 years old, and we have been living in Europe and the U.S. ever since.
Why would the Ottoman government warn your ggg-father to move to Istanbul when it knew his sons were acting rebellious against it? Hehe, a bribe maybe? Anyways, I think if my ancestors joined any team, they would most likely join the Young Turks – for most of my family consisted of mostly ethnic Turks (I assume, I do not know even 60%). Rusalka, better get the weapons ready, we are about to fight one another. ;D ;D Hehe, just kidding pal! ;D
Kadikoy is an awesome place. I was born in the Fatih area, in Koca Mustafa Pasa, that place is awesome as well. You go back to visit your family during summer time or something along those lines?
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Post by rusalka on Dec 12, 2003 22:14:51 GMT -5
Nope, my family left Turkey when I was 4 years old, and we have been living in Europe and the U.S. ever since. Oh I see. I have family scattered all around, but most of them live in Istanbul and Geneva (Switzerland) Well he was somewhat of a local official, he was working for the government. I think he was overseeing some legal or commercial matters. I've been told there were a lot of local people who were appointed for those positions that were not as important to be occupied by someone sent from the capital. In any case, he was a well respected man with some land and considerable wealth. I think my great-grandfather and his brother were more like looking up to the actual bandits as opposed to being one themselves; but had raised up some trouble in the town. I can't remember all that my grandfather had told me; and he died back in 95.. I have a photo of my great-grandfather and his brother with a French officer though, when they were older, I think. As for me, I already loaded up my gun Moltke. And I'm waiting for you! ;D Yes, I think the whole of Istanbul is great; although I can't complain about New York either I live in Brooklyn and it's almost exactly like Kadikoy, if you ask me; Manhattan being the "other side" of the Bosphorus. I visit them, they visit me, but I miss home made food and genuine feta cheese a LOT!
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 22:24:28 GMT -5
Hey, mine too! My family is mostly in Istanbul, and some in Germany (One in California and one in Trabzon though). That’s what I read from books, locals usually got such jobs. Has this wealth been inherited through your family line? Or has it disappeared like mine? Hehe, that’s understandable. ;D How dare you insult me by not calling me by my title, General Moltke? ;D Someone needs punishing. 10 spankings for you! ;D ;D I can’t either, I been there, and loved it. Hehe, if you look at the map of New York, you can also see the Golden Horn! That’s the trouble of traveling and staying out of your home. I miss a lot of things as well, but ah well, I can’t do anything about it as of now.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 12, 2003 22:34:16 GMT -5
Hey, mine too! My family is mostly in Istanbul, and some in Germany (One in California and one in Trabzon though). Oh, but you don't live there anymore? Or do you? Where do you live? Unfortunately. They had to sell the lands they had when they were immigrating to Istanbul, because they couldn't have kept them AND go. My grandfather told me that they sold their goods for rather cheap because it was on such short notice. Our relatives, who are descended from one Serbian official, they've managed to keep all lands and now they have a "vakif" in Turkey and my cousin is in charge. That's because the guy was a vizier of course, and didn't have to run away or anything Spankings? Wow this forum is getting SM! (and even without AWAR) Okay then, General Moltke, in turn you can call me vojvotkinja. ;D Well at least in NY you can find almost every national cuisine. Not guaranteed to be good of course..
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Post by GeneralMoltke on Dec 12, 2003 22:45:36 GMT -5
Nope, I don’t live in Germany nor in Turkey anymore. I used to live in Maryland, which was good, but now I am in the worst place of all…North Carolina! You know, we got tobaccar in here, and people spit, and farms and crap. Alright, alright, it isn’t that bad. However, this place is NOTHING like the North. I have seen so many trees since I was 4 years old, even in Germany…I miss concrete buildings of the cities! ;D d*mn, bad deals for your family, sorry about that bud. Your Serbian ancestor was a Vizer? Are you serious ? What was his name? I read of many Vizers in the Ottoman court, if you gave me the name, I would like to know more. That’s good about the Vakif though, we don’t even have that hehe…we have nothing. ;D Whoa whoa whoa, you make it sound as if it is too bad to say spanking, they might ban me ;D. Vojvotkinja? Isn’t she a Russian model or something? If it is, that is too high of a title for you. ;D Hehe, just playing… ;D ;D I had enough of internation cuisine…especially in North Carolina, which only consists of Mexican and Chinese as “International” >:(Grrrr…where is my doner kebabbbb!
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