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Post by kornelius on Sept 12, 2005 12:25:05 GMT -5
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Post by Agrippa on Sept 12, 2005 15:11:51 GMT -5
Cromagnids are older than the Borreby type, they are the original progressive form of Northern Europe. Cromagnids/Dalofaelids are the ancestral form and more widespread than real Borrebies. Interestingly some Nordid-Borreby mixed individuals can look somewhat similar to original medium-long headed-broad faced Cromagnids, which some anthropologists try to distinguish, most not. As for the chosen examples, yes, some of the Faelisch examples from Günther might look somewhat similar to Nordid-Borreby mixed types, but especially the example from this plate: forum.stirpes.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4332&d=1119996168 Is a typical Cromagnid/Dalofaelid type and no simple Nordid-Borreby mix. Typical Borrebies are rather high headed and sometimes almost planoccipital, both is the opposite of the Dalofaelid appearance and therefore they can most of the time distinguished even in the mixture. That are simply the Cromagnids of the East, often referred to as "Palaeeuropids" or Kurgan people type/Kurganids, because they were strong especially in the early Kurgan people. |
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Post by Platypus on Sept 12, 2005 15:44:39 GMT -5
Agrippa This Norwegian footballer (John Arne Riise) strikes me for his UP looks which are superficially "irish" if U get me.... My view of him was of an intermediate Brunn/Borreby, but would you classify him as a Borreby or as a Cromagnid /Dalofaelid?     |
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Post by Agrippa on Sept 12, 2005 15:46:59 GMT -5
Hard to say without a profile picture, but my first impression is definitely Borreby.
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Post by Platypus on Sept 12, 2005 15:50:04 GMT -5
Profile  Also whats Olly Kahn then? His features are quite extreme but unlike the man above Kahn couldnt pass for Irish and just looks to me very Germanic.  |
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 12, 2005 15:55:57 GMT -5
Dalofaelid...nothing I see that show UP,not even his build.
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Post by Edwin on Sept 12, 2005 20:49:59 GMT -5
John Arne Riise is a Borreby, though a bit reduced, but not Alpinid.
Oliver Kahn looks like a genetically engineered reconstruction of several Cro-Magnid variants from different periods all put together. He would look right at home in Cork or Kerry, or Kurgan.
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Post by kornelius on Sept 13, 2005 7:38:44 GMT -5
Profile Also whats Olly Kahn then? His features are quite extreme but unlike the man above Kahn couldnt pass for Irish and just looks to me very Germanic. after posting the profile pic, i really can't tell the difference between Kahn and John Arne Riise, they both look more long headed than anything else, Riise doesn't look planoccipital. just Kahn's face is more rough. |
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Post by Agrippa on Sept 13, 2005 8:48:11 GMT -5
Yes, John Arne Riise doesnt look typically Borreby in the profile picture, he might be intermediate between Borreby and Dalofaelid, looks like a coarse Cromagnid version, somewhat more like some Palaeatlantids even, Kahn is just a more classic Cromagnid/Dalofaelid, just quite extreme.
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Post by kornelius on Sept 14, 2005 6:46:28 GMT -5
That are simply the Cromagnids of the East, often referred to as "Palaeeuropids" or Kurgan people type/Kurganids, because they were strong especially in the early Kurgan people. can u post a picture of a palaeeuropid example? or it's simply like a dalofaelid? |
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Post by Platypus on Sept 14, 2005 12:41:16 GMT -5
The first two (Galician and Rutenian) are mixed with Nordic, the second one (Montenegrin) admix with Pontid and is Dinaricized. Dinariciz is also third (Russian) I think they can all be Derivations or Specializations of an original Palauripid Type The first two I think could give an idea of how some of the people living the Kurgan/Schythic areas might have looked like.    |
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