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Post by yigal on Aug 2, 2005 4:46:47 GMT -5
Alawites dont spin of of shiites directly, they are a "back reformation" of druze Druze are also lighter
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Aug 2, 2005 5:04:16 GMT -5
There are heaps of black Americans with blue, green, mixed eye colors. Go to RAS and check up the blue eyed black people section.
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Post by yigal on Aug 2, 2005 5:07:33 GMT -5
There are heaps of black Americans with blue, green, mixed eye colors. Go to RAS and check up the blue eyed black people section.
thats a genetic imposibility,(with blue not necicerally green)
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Post by Funky Kong on Aug 2, 2005 11:55:05 GMT -5
Well, actually they aren't, their culture developed seperately to the Druuze, and they don't have any distinct traditions or beliefs in common other than their belief in reincarnation which is probably by chance, so i don't see how you've come to that conclusion, even though they're both some pretty damn odd groups! But the lightness is pretty widespread in allthe different groups actually, and it seems like members of every group occasionally get blue eyed children and so on. And heh, i couldn't find RAS, so can anyone please send a link? And why would blue eyed africans be impossible? If both parents had ancestors who were blue eyed, wouldn't they be able to have blue eyed children? I myself have only seen "blacks" with green eyes that were half mulatto, meaning that one of their parents were mulatto, and one white.. By the way, here's some pictures of Hafez Assad: And then there's a shitey picture of Bashar's brother Basil, who looks a little bit more generic.
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Post by syriano on Aug 3, 2005 4:27:31 GMT -5
the statement that alwats are lighter is not true
blondism is common all over
the thing I noticed in alwats is that they look more armeniod/dinaric than other Syrians
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Post by yigal on Aug 3, 2005 9:00:13 GMT -5
Well, actually they aren't, their culture developed seperately to the Druuze, and they don't have any distinct traditions or beliefs in common other than their belief in reincarnation which is probably by chance, so i don't see how you've come to that conclusion, even though they're both some pretty damn odd groups!
No druze and and alawites are both spin ofs of ismaili shites, but alawites are a back reformation from druze closer back to islam, they are however influnced by simmilarly named Alevis which are central asian shaman shiites which drink
In the Druze Catechism, question 44 says the ‘Alawites split from the Druze because they did not worship al-Hakim and worshipped ‘Ali instead.
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Post by Funky Kong on Aug 5, 2005 22:11:09 GMT -5
Well, i've never heard of such claims before, and Wikipedia even dates the creation of each sect to two different centuries, Alawism being formed first ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawiteen.wikipedia.org/wiki/DruzeAnd actually, the Alevis of Turkey have nothing to do with the Alawites other than their relationship to Ali.. The Alawi religion is a mix of Islam, Christianity, mixed with what seems to be remnants of Phoenician and Zoroastrian religion. The fact that Alawites drink ceremonial wine has probably more to do with the Christian elements in the religion. And it would be beneficial for the Druze to claim another group as Druze outcast sinners to further their own internal agendas. But what did you mean with blue eyes being impossible among afroamericans? If both parents have white ancestry, wouldn't it be possible? And if it is possible, why does it practically never occur? And yes, it is a common mistake to claim that only some of these Lebanese/Syrian groups have this influence, as it can be found at pretty much the same frequency among all the different ethnoreligious groups there.
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