Catholicism is a cult, not real Christianity

[Planet Asia]

annienormanna said:

bertrand said:

Good day sir? How about Good day Mr. Rigaud? lol

I know. Agatha Christie on her worst day couldn't sound this bad

Woman you're really confusing me with the things you say. just speak plainly to me.

[annienormanna]

bertrand said:

annienormanna said:

I know. Agatha Christie on her worst day couldn't sound this bad

Woman you're really confusing me with the things you say. just speak plainly to me.

Sho'nuff:

[Lil' Kim]
Yeah....uhh
In the M.A.F.I.A.'s Land ya'll
Where loyalty is everything [*thunder sounds*]
The M.A.F.I.A. forgives but never forgets
Let me tell you

In the MAFIA's land where there's one boss and one clan
Yes mans they surround us like steaks in pans
All 'em wanna be the man right hands wash the left hands
Loyalty's priority in this fam
Where life's initiated ain't no givin' it back
Once you in it like Bennet you'll soon be lieutenant
Like me the Don Juan Miss Yvonne
the sweat-a the money gett-a
Copin mad cheddar
Stevie's all Wondering how I got in this position
One day Frank was fishin' for competition expidition
Number one, his name is Barry Madanno
Push the phat Milano '96 mission cost ya barizano
I lay gently in the Bently through binoculars he seemed popular
Givincci socks Cartier coolats
H-class rocks and charms like Bohemians
Sick like lukemians, receding hairlines
Watch how genuine his gold mine decline
When Frank pops the wine, I cocks the nine
Niggas peeped it from behind and slipped their clips in quick
One chick named Nick thought she was the shit
Tried to play Big Poppa, don't worry
Minutes before I dropped her the blow! blow! blow!
Like a parol-e the bitch violated
So how you like it coffins or creameted

[chorus:]

There ain't a day in my life that rolls by
That I don't get high, sit back and won't cry
I used to roll hard with tons of bitches
But now it's just me and my niggas, whah
[repeat]

[Lil' Kim]
Street murders, thug parasites
We official no fake gators
Coppin' fire arms with dug missles
We leavin scar tissue
That nigga Barry still aggy about that slut
Mob nigga what! threw the gang sign up
The nigga chuckles, just slip the loot
On my belt buckles and cracked his middle nuckles
Damn how could a deal for a couple mill
Result to such violence
And throw our whole shit off balance
Yet still, they pat me down from all angles
Trapped inside this devil's triangle
Like Bo I had the Jangles
And movin' slow to slide up on these Mexicans
One cross eyed and hunchbacked
The other must be mixed with black
The third nigga had missin' teeth and tatto tear drops
Long hair, chest for like a bag of rocks
Before this chops
I grabbed the keys to locks, the jewels and the rocks
The cream in the box, etc. etc. etc. and it don't stop
I got away with everything, the cash and the stash

[chorus:]

[Lil' Kim]
So now I'm titled mission acomplished
My man was astonished
He looked as if there was a foul aroma in the air
Stinkin! I know what this nigga thinkin'
Damn she's too little, too pretty, too quiet
The bitch is hired, mob's wife for life
Diamond heist with Trife, contracts on your life
We increase the price, uuhh
So guess who the bitch is, but for now I be the mistress

[kwalka]

Christianity only started to be based on the bible in the 1500's - so I would say that protestantism is the true perversion of the religion.

[Jack Reed]

kwalka said:

Christianity only started to be based on the bible in the 1500's - so I would say that protestantism is the true perversion of the religion.

That's not true. There were Bible-based Christian groups before John Calvin and Martin Luther were even born. Of course, they weren't too popular with the official church. The official church rarely asked, "WWJD?". ;-)

[kwalka]

jackreed1 said:

kwalka said:

Christianity only started to be based on the bible in the 1500's - so I would say that protestantism is the true perversion of the religion.

That's not true. There were Bible-based Christian groups before John Calvin and Martin Luther were even born. Of course, they weren't too popular with the official church. The official church rarely asked, "WWJD?". ;-)

That's news to me, but it's of no consequence - the bible has been largely irrelevant to "true" or orthodox/mainstream Christianity for the majority of its existence.

[anodyne]

bertrand said:

I think I've stated this before someplace. The majority of what they do is non-scriptural such as praying to saints, using rosary beads, the doctrine of "papal infallibility", and the worship of Mary. No examples of any of the above are found in the Bible, the only true inspired Word of God. Anyone agree or disagree?

1) Pagan traditions were meshed with Christanity to be more appealing to the people. So that's why Catholicism seems a bit strange to non Catholics whose ancestors decided to sign up for a different Christian sect. Although, to be fair, Catholics don't actually pray to saints. They're more like middlemen to god. God is a very busy being. A strange concept that gets protestants riled up, but once again, it's just an adaption that made Christianity more acceptable to people.

2) I don't remember how rosary beads came about but I don't see anything nefarious about it. It helps Catholics keep tract of how many prayers they have left to go before it's time to have a good time

3) Catholics don't worship Mary. They honor her.

No examples of any of the above are found in the Bible, the only true inspired Word of God.

4) By the way, how do you account for all the contradictions in the bible?

*One thing that I always found strange is how the god from the old testament is one tough son of a bitch but in the new testament he's Dr. Love. He goes from slaughtering children in the old testament to sharing his love with everyone in the new testament. He went from smiting to forgiving. Such a drastic change of character.

[wadad]

Not only is Catholicism a cult, its the oldest cult actually, a rendition of the old Egyptian cult of Isis and Horus....Compare:

Hymn to Atun:
Quote:
Lord of All, Lord of heaven, Lord of Earth
Thy rays embrace the lands
Thou layest the foundations of the earth
How manifold are thy works!
The ships go down and up the stream..."


Psalm 104:
Quote:
O Lord thou art very Great
Who coverest thyself with light as a garment
Who laid the foundations of the earth
O Lord how manifold are thy works!
How ships sail to and fro..."

[Josh]

anodyne said:

*One thing that I always found strange is how the god from the old testament is one tough son of a bitch but in the new testament he's Dr. Love. He goes from slaughtering children in the old testament to sharing his love with everyone in the new testament. He went from smiting to forgiving. Such a drastic change of character.

That's not entirely true. Look at this page (www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/), it shows the many darker passages of the bible that they never told you about in Sunday school, and the New Testament has its fair share too.

[annienormanna]

wadad said:

Not only is Catholicism a cult, its the oldest cult actually, a rendition of the old Egyptian cult of Isis and Horus....Compare:

Hymn to Atun:
Quote:
Lord of All, Lord of heaven, Lord of Earth
Thy rays embrace the lands
Thou layest the foundations of the earth
How manifold are thy works!
The ships go down and up the stream..."


Psalm 104:
Quote:
O Lord thou art very Great
Who coverest thyself with light as a garment
Who laid the foundations of the earth
O Lord how manifold are thy works!
How ships sail to and fro..."

What about the 42 negative confessions:

have not committed sins against men.
I have not opposed my family and kinsfolk.
I have not acted fraudulently in the Seat of Truth.
I have not known men who were of no account.
I have not wrought evil.
I have not made it to be the first [consideration daily that unnecessary] work should be done for me.
I have not brought forward my name for dignities.
I have not [attempted] to direct servants. [1]
.
I have not defrauded the humble man of his property.
I have not done what the gods abominate.
I have not vilified a slave to his master.
I have not inflicted pain.
I have not caused anyone to go hungry.
I have not made any man to weep.
I have not committed murder.
I have not given the order for murder to be committed.
I have not caused calamities to befall men and women.
I have not plundered the offerings in the temples.
I have not defrauded the gods of their cake-offerings.
I have not carried off the fenkhu cakes [offered to] the Spirits.
I have not committed fornication.
I have not masturbated [in the sanctuaries of the god of my city].
I have not diminished from the bushel.
I have not filched [land from my neighbour's estate and] added it to my own acre.
I have not encroached upon the fields [of others].
I have not added to the weights of the scales.
I have not depressed the pointer of the balance.
I have not carried away the milk from the mouths of children.
I have not driven the cattle away from their pastures.
I have not snared the geese in the goose-pens of the gods.
I have not caught fish with bait made of the bodies of the same kind of fish.
I have not stopped water when it should flow.
I have not made a cutting in a canal of running water.
I have not extinguished a fire when it should burn.
I have not violated the times [of offering] the chosen meat offerings.
I have not driven away the cattle on the estates of the gods.
I have not turned back the god at his appearances.

I am pure. I am pure. I am pure. My pure offerings are the pure offerings of that great Benu which dwelleth in Hensu. For behold, I am the nose of Neb-nefu (the lord of the air), who giveth sustenance unto all mankind, on the day of the filling of the Utchat in Anu, in the second month of the season Pert, on the last of the month, [in the presence of the Lord of this earth]. I have seen the filling of the Utchat in Anu, therefore let not calamity befall me in this land, or in this Hall of Maati, because I know the names of the gods who are therein, [and who are the followers of the Great God].
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Source: From the Book of the Dead Translated by E.A. Wallis Budge Brit. Mus. No. 10477, Sheet 22


But that doesn't make Catholicism a cult. A billion people is an incredible amount of minds to change.

[anodyne]

josh said:

anodyne said:

*One thing that I always found strange is how the god from the old testament is one tough son of a bitch but in the new testament he's Dr. Love. He goes from slaughtering children in the old testament to sharing his love with everyone in the new testament. He went from smiting to forgiving. Such a drastic change of character.

That's not entirely true. Look at this page (www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/), it shows the many darker passages of the bible that they never told you about in Sunday school, and the New Testament has its fair share too.

Yes, but the main theme is love. That this theme is occasionally contradicted is not surprising considering how the gospels evolved. Especially in the Gospel according to John.

Revelation is obviously very venegeful and has to be understood in the context. The world wasn't a fun place for Christians at the time and it's human nature to want some pay back... even if the words out of their mouth is love.

[Igu]

Catholicism is a cult, not real Christianity ? so is christianity, not real judaism, a failure of a weak man who pretended to be the messiah but did not do anything that the messiah was supposed to do.

[redbaron]

Is it mandatory that Baptists/Pentacostalists/"Non-Denominationals" be entirely ignorant of the history of their own religion? Or maybe it's what happens after you join. That's probably it. How ironic that most of their "scriptural" beliefs come from, shall we say, creative decisions made by Catholic bishops at various church councils.

[Educate Me]

this thread and many of the posters suffer from a severe lack of knowledge of church history.

[Planet Asia]

ienjoylurking said:

this thread and many of the posters suffer from a severe lack of knowledge of church history.

Oh yeah, bigtime buddy. It doesn't take a long look at church history to look and see that the religious practices of Catholics are mostly non-scriptural and when we look at so-called church history this even strengthens my case. So-Called Councils and meetings are a bucnh of men coming together agreeing to make new dogma for Catholics, none of it was scriptural.

[redbaron]

bertrand said:

ienjoylurking said:

this thread and many of the posters suffer from a severe lack of knowledge of church history.

Oh yeah, bigtime buddy. It doesn't take a long look at church history to look and see that the religious practices of Catholics are mostly non-scriptural and when we look at so-called church history this even strengthens my case. So-Called Councils and meetings are a bucnh of men coming together agreeing to make new dogma for Catholics, none of it was scriptural.

You could benefit from a good Catholic education.

Newsflash: They compiled and edited YOUR scriptures and invented YOUR basic theology (the trinity, the nature of Christ, original sin) in those councils.