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Post by wadad on Feb 3, 2006 20:45:38 GMT -5
No, not fantasy. Reality. Do I really have to compare the list of Jewish intellectuals to all the great minds that have sprung from that hotbed of culture, Alberta, Canada? It's irrelevant. I dont care if every jew was a brain surgeon. It has nothing to do with what I said. ...no its because you know Alberta's got nothing on the Jews
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Post by annienormanna on Feb 3, 2006 20:48:39 GMT -5
No, not fantasy. Reality. Do I really have to compare the list of Jewish intellectuals to all the great minds that have sprung from that hotbed of culture, Alberta, Canada? It's irrelevant. I dont care if every jew was a brain surgeon. It has nothing to do with what I said. And it never will, will it? And what do you with fish? You pickle it instead of looking for deh bread. Always this way wis yous guys. Alsways wills bees.
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Post by nockwasright on Feb 3, 2006 20:53:03 GMT -5
No, not fantasy. Reality. Do I really have to compare the list of Jewish intellectuals to all the great minds that have sprung from that hotbed of culture, Alberta, Canada? It's irrelevant. I dont care if every jew was a brain surgeon. It has nothing to do with what I said. It has. Jews' contribution is a very relevant part of western culture. How can they work against western culture when they belong to it? They're not just surgeons. Proust, Kafka, Freud, Marx and many other Jews are crucial in defining western culture.
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Post by dukeofpain on Feb 4, 2006 2:14:03 GMT -5
It's irrelevant. I dont care if every jew was a brain surgeon. It has nothing to do with what I said. It has. Jews' contribution is a very relevant part of western culture. How can they work against western culture when they belong to it? They're not just surgeons. Proust, Kafka, Freud, Marx and many other Jews are crucial in defining western culture. Just like they were crucial in nearly destroying it with bolshevism.
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Post by nymos on Feb 4, 2006 3:39:42 GMT -5
It has. Jews' contribution is a very relevant part of western culture. How can they work against western culture when they belong to it? They're not just surgeons. Proust, Kafka, Freud, Marx and many other Jews are crucial in defining western culture. Just like they were crucial in nearly destroying it with bolshevism. The stupidity of your reply aside, Marxism is also part of the Western Culture.
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Post by nymos on Feb 4, 2006 3:44:39 GMT -5
In any case, what claim can an uncouth, uneducated, deluded, and bigoted hick from Canada have to Western Culture?
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Post by asdf on Feb 4, 2006 3:55:59 GMT -5
Just like they were crucial in nearly destroying it with bolshevism. The stupidity of your reply aside, Marxism is also part of the Western Culture. Well, no, it's not. I mean, Marxism is, but Bolshevism/Communism and Eastern Europe are by definition un-Western.
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Post by nymos on Feb 4, 2006 4:32:14 GMT -5
The stupidity of your reply aside, Marxism is also part of the Western Culture. Well, no, it's not. I mean, Marxism is, but Bolshevism/Communism and Eastern Europe are by definition un-Western. By what definition is Communism not Western? Elaborate in general. I think I see your confusion due to the fact that you bring up Eastern Europe.
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Post by asdf on Feb 4, 2006 4:37:45 GMT -5
The definition of "the West" is Western + Central Europe. I'm not confused.
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Post by nymos on Feb 4, 2006 5:00:15 GMT -5
"The West" is defined by geography? Western and Central Europe are geographical terms after all. Where is this strict definition set in, pray tell?
I disagree with the notion that culture of Eastern Europe is alien to the Western Culture. For at least the last two centuries it has been Western. The arts, literature, politics, culture have all been influenced by Western thought and have become, essentially, a part of it.
But lets accept what you say is correct. Then, you still have to explain why you tie Communism to Eastern Europe.
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Post by dukeofpain on Feb 4, 2006 5:03:12 GMT -5
Just like they were crucial in nearly destroying it with bolshevism. The stupidity of your reply aside, Marxism is also part of the Western Culture. The only thing stupid is jews refusing to take responsibility for anything, including bolshevism.
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Post by asdf on Feb 4, 2006 5:09:44 GMT -5
"The West" is defined by geography? Western and Central Europe are geographical terms after all. Where is this strict definition set in, pray tell? I disagree with the notion that culture of Eastern Europe is alien to the Western Culture. For at least the last two centuries it has been Western. The arts, literature, politics, culture have all been influenced by Western thought and have become, essentially, a part of it. But lets accept what you say is correct. Then, you still have to explain why you tie Communism to Eastern Europe. Look, the "West" has many definitions. Western + Central Europe more or less covers them all though, and Russia is included in none of them. And that's what I'm talking about - Bolshevism. That's Marxism Soviet style. Not French, not English - Russian. The "West" was always juxtaposed against Soviet Russia. I did say "Bolshevism/Communism", but I just meant Bolshevism and where Communism took off, which was never in the West.
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Post by nymos on Feb 4, 2006 6:13:19 GMT -5
Again, you seem to be restricting Western Culture and Western thought to geography. Ideas can permeate through geographical boundaries, you know. There was Communst activity all over Europe at the time. The groups were not isolated, but communicated with each other and most of the time cooperated.
How can that be when the concept of the West existed before Soviet Russia.
Where Communism took off has no bearing. Communism is a western idea/concept.
Tersely, Bolshevism is the application of Communism by Bolsheviks in Russia/SU. Communism and Bolshevism are not comparable notions. If Communism is an idea, then Bolshevism is that idea being carried out. How can Bolshevism not be Western, when it's a manifestation of a Western idea? The Bolshevik's themselves were not un-Western. In fact, they were a product of Western ideas. Again, the fact that their ancestry did not lie in Western or Central Europe has no bearing.
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Post by asdf on Feb 4, 2006 7:50:20 GMT -5
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Post by nymos on Feb 4, 2006 15:29:03 GMT -5
hehe
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