On Canada & Multiculturalism

[nordicyouth]

Arguably, no other modern state has embraced the multicultural ethos as Canada has done. Overall, Canadians seem to be the least bigoted of industrialized nations...certainly less than their neighbour to the south.

Note: I am bypassing such historical incidents as: (a) subjugating the Aboriginals and (b) turning away Jewish refugees during WWII.

This enabled Canada to absorb fleeing African ex-slaves from the United States, which today amount to some 200,000. In no way do these African-Canadians resemble their American compatriots. They are unnoticeable in Canadian culture, having adopted Canadian customs, etc.

Similarly, the Japanese, despite retaining their traditions, eagerly assimilated into Canadian culture and became very productive citizens.

I used to be proud of our diversity. During the 1980s, scores of Hong Kong Chinese emigrated to Canada (albeit after an exorbitant investment) to escape the coming re-unification of China and the British colony in 1997.

East Indians and Pakistanis also arrived during this time in similar numbers.

Both groups remain un-assimilated and have created their own 'zones' which Whites and other Canadians rarely if ever enter. Due to the Hong Kong Chinese presence, Vancouver is now known as a 'Yellow City,' in which it is over 50% Chinese; in Greater Vancouver the East Indian enclave of Surrey will soon outnumber Vancouver proper.

Unfortunately, the East Indians have brought with them organized crime, armed violence, and other crime on a hitherto unknown scale in this city. In this case, poverty is not an excuse - according to a federal inquiry into Indo-Canadian crime, mothers are letting their sons run amok while doting on them.

Recent waves of Blacks from the Caribbean and Africa are boosting crime rates (esp. gun violence) in Ontario and Quebec. 2/3 of Blacks in Canada are immigrants, overwhelming the Canadian Blacks already here.

Canada is facing a situation where its new arrivals are not Canadian except on paper, and true Canadians recognize this.

If this situation continues, eventually, Canada will become 51% non-White, at which point I leave. Already, non-White ethnic groups (non-citizens) are hijacking the loosely regulated political by-elections.

Anyone care to comment; hopefully you're either Canadian or have some knowledge of our country beyond American television?

[tonynatuzzi]

if Canada's NonWhite population ends up being half of the country's population than where would you move to since you said you would leave if that scenario came true.

[harri]

I'd fight rather than leave.

[aroundtheworld]

Fight what? I can see if someone is bothering you but why don't you just stay away from the EAst Indian gangs??? why is the government allowing them to come into Canada and stir up shyte anyways??

[nordicyouth]

Americans are well versed with high crime rates and ethnic/racial tension; Canadians are not. In a way, we are defenceless, and I refuse to live in a country where my children can be attacked with impunity by migrants that are seemingly beyond the law. Nor will I see my city turn into Rio, just because some Brown and Black people refuse to abide by the rules.

An East Indian policeman had a televised interview where he explained that Indo-Canadian men will not obey the law and must be 'crushed' or something like that. So now tolerance doesn't seem to work either...

One look at Canada, and you see that some ethnic groups are more prone to crime. It's a fact that isn't rooted in class or racism but rather in their own cultures e.g. East Indians, Caribbeans, Somalis, Vietnamese.

[eastanglian]

Indians are known for being hard working and law abiding in England. Pakistanis on the other hand...

[aroundtheworld]

Perhaps it is b/c of the national standards they brought with them. I've heard on documentary of things like female circumcision, honour killings, and family feud killings occuring in Canada between Indian, Paki, and other families.

[phrost]

nordicyouth said:

Similarly, the Japanese, despite retaining their traditions, eagerly assimilated into Canadian culture and became very productive citizens.

I used to be proud of our diversity. During the 1980s, scores of Hong Kong Chinese emigrated to Canada (albeit after an exorbitant investment) to escape the coming re-unification of China and the British colony in 1997.

East Indians and Pakistanis also arrived during this time in similar numbers.

Both groups remain un-assimilated and have created their own 'zones' which Whites and other Canadians rarely if ever enter. Due to the Hong Kong Chinese presence, Vancouver is now known as a 'Yellow City,' in which it is over 50% Chinese; in Greater Vancouver the East Indian enclave of Surrey will soon outnumber Vancouver proper.

It depends on how many generations they have been in the country. If they are first generation immigrants you cant expect them to assimilate overnight. (Maybe if they been here for several decades though).
Second generation of children of immigrants on the other hand is a different story.

[phrost]

nordicyouth said:

One look at Canada, and you see that some ethnic groups are more prone to crime. It's a fact that isn't rooted in class or racism but rather in their own cultures e.g. East Indians, Caribbeans, Somalis, Vietnamese.

The examples you have given are also some of the more poorest countries. A considerable amount of India's population are poor. So is the Carribeans, Somalia and Vietnam. Many of these poor areas are also crime ridden. I've travelled in some of them so I know.

[dukeofpain]

nordicyouth said:

Arguably, no other modern state has embraced the multicultural ethos as Canada has done. Overall, Canadians seem to be the least bigoted of industrialized nations...certainly less than their neighbour to the south.

Note: I am bypassing such historical incidents as: (a) subjugating the Aboriginals and (b) turning away Jewish refugees during WWII.

This enabled Canada to absorb fleeing African ex-slaves from the United States, which today amount to some 200,000. In no way do these African-Canadians resemble their American compatriots. They are unnoticeable in Canadian culture, having adopted Canadian customs, etc.

Similarly, the Japanese, despite retaining their traditions, eagerly assimilated into Canadian culture and became very productive citizens.

I used to be proud of our diversity. During the 1980s, scores of Hong Kong Chinese emigrated to Canada (albeit after an exorbitant investment) to escape the coming re-unification of China and the British colony in 1997.

East Indians and Pakistanis also arrived during this time in similar numbers.

Both groups remain un-assimilated and have created their own 'zones' which Whites and other Canadians rarely if ever enter. Due to the Hong Kong Chinese presence, Vancouver is now known as a 'Yellow City,' in which it is over 50% Chinese; in Greater Vancouver the East Indian enclave of Surrey will soon outnumber Vancouver proper.

Unfortunately, the East Indians have brought with them organized crime, armed violence, and other crime on a hitherto unknown scale in this city. In this case, poverty is not an excuse - according to a federal inquiry into Indo-Canadian crime, mothers are letting their sons run amok while doting on them.

Recent waves of Blacks from the Caribbean and Africa are boosting crime rates (esp. gun violence) in Ontario and Quebec. 2/3 of Blacks in Canada are immigrants, overwhelming the Canadian Blacks already here.

Canada is facing a situation where its new arrivals are not Canadian except on paper, and true Canadians recognize this.

If this situation continues, eventually, Canada will become 51% non-White, at which point I leave. Already, non-White ethnic groups (non-citizens) are hijacking the loosely regulated political by-elections.

Anyone care to comment; hopefully you're either Canadian or have some knowledge of our country beyond American television?

"Canada" hasn't accepted anything, all that junk is done in south ontario. This is the way it has been done for decades, the water shed being the scraping of the Royal union jack for a bloody leaf. Against the wishes of many people, most notably war veterans. Which is my biggest problem. I don't think when my family members were getting killed for their country they had corrupted socialist xenophilic scum bag pig dogs like Pierre Treaudue and Paul Martin in mind, nor did they fight so Canada could be swarmed with scum that can freely gun down fifteen year old girls in broad daylight. If these shcmukls keep on it in no time flat not only will quebec jump shit, but others like Newfoundland and Alberta will too. Screw them all.

[tonynatuzzi]

Dukeofpain face it in a few years Canada is gonna have even less White people than the city of Compton. ;D

[Toasty]

tonynatuzzi said:

Dukeofpain face it in a few years Canada is gonna have even less White people than the city of Compton. ;D

Krist Novoselic is from Compton.

[tonynatuzzi]

Hey Toasty Compton is over 85% Black and Hispanic.

[Toasty]

tonynatuzzi said:

Hey Toasty Compton is over 85% Black and Hispanic.

What's the other 15%?

[tonynatuzzi]

The remainder is Asian,Pacific Islander,and Non Hispanic White.