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Post by k5125 on Apr 29, 2005 16:17:24 GMT -5
Anybody know? A lot of people online say she is hispanic.
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Post by mike2 on Apr 29, 2005 16:24:20 GMT -5
No, she's Welsh. She looks like a Spaniard because she is of the residual West Mediterranean type of Britain.
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Post by k5125 on Apr 29, 2005 16:45:24 GMT -5
No, she's Welsh. She looks like a Spaniard because she is of the residual West Mediterranean type of Britain. Some people say her father was Spanish though. Is this true? If he was, does that make her a hispanic american actress?
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Post by Tautamo on Apr 29, 2005 16:54:18 GMT -5
Some people say her father was Spanish though. Is this true? If he was, does that make her a hispanic american actress? who says that? where did you read it?
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Post by k5125 on Apr 29, 2005 17:07:15 GMT -5
who says that? where did you read it? I was arguing with some guy on a message board about who was white and who was not white. He says all hispanics are non white. Anyway, I said that hispanics from Spain were white, but that Catherine Zeta Jones was from England anyway so it didn't matter. Then he responded and said that her father was Spanish which he says makes her hispanic (and from his viewpoint a non-white women.) Personally I find that hilarious. I think she is definately a white girl whether she is spanish or not. But I was just curious to know if he was right about her father.
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Post by mike2 on Apr 29, 2005 17:21:47 GMT -5
He says all hispanics are non white. What a moron.
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Post by Josh on Apr 29, 2005 17:22:03 GMT -5
I was arguing with some guy on a message board about who was white and who was not white. He says all hispanics are non white. Anyway, I said that hispanics from Spain were white, but that Catherine Zeta Jones was from England anyway so it didn't matter. Then he responded and said that her father was Spanish which he says makes her hispanic (and from his viewpoint a non-white women.) Personally I find that hilarious. I think she is definately a white girl whether she is spanish or not. But I was just curious to know if he was right about her father. He probably mistook her for being part Spanish due to her role in Mask of Zorro. I know that she's Welsh, but I have heard that she's half-Welsh, half-Irish. Either way, she's of native British Isles stock.
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Post by mike2 on Apr 29, 2005 17:27:11 GMT -5
Exactly. Completely Welsh or not, she's still a Briton. And a damned good-looking one at that.
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Post by Criollo on Apr 29, 2005 17:39:41 GMT -5
Spaniards from Spain are Arayn and their descendants living in the Americas are Arayn theirs no such thing as a hispanic race. Hispanics can be mongoloid,negroid,caucasoid and much more often are mixed of one or more of these races. www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/hispanics.html
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Post by mike2 on Apr 29, 2005 18:35:00 GMT -5
You're right about everything except the Aryan part. Spaniards are definitely not Aryan.
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Post by henerte on Apr 29, 2005 18:39:04 GMT -5
You're right about everything except the Aryan part. Spaniards are definitely not Aryan. What is Aryan? Linguistic term?! Then all indo-european language speakers are aryan. Racial term?! As far as I know, Nazis used it to describe all europeans, not only nordics.
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Post by Criollo on Apr 29, 2005 19:22:10 GMT -5
You're right about everything except the Aryan part. Spaniards are definitely not Aryan. What do you mean by Arayn Briton if you mean Arayn as in Hitlers definition of "Arayn" blonde and blue eyed nordic type then only a small number of Spaniards are Arayn. If we mean Arayn as in the indo-European tribes then not any European gene pool is 100% Arayn even Germany had a significant old European population when the Indo-Arayns arrieved in Spain many Spaniards have Arayn blood from these invaders but the vast majority of Spaniards do not have 100% Arayn heritage because of the old European population present their when the indo-Arayns arrieved which eventually diluted their phenotype and it was absorbed into the larger mediterenean population that was present their. So when I use the term Arayn I mean white as in not mestizo,negroid etc. etc. which is what most "latin" Americans are. The Nazis used Spaniards their was some of them in the Waffen SS they even formed an entire division the blue division and didnt one have to be Arayn in order to be a SS officer.
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Post by mike2 on Apr 29, 2005 19:41:08 GMT -5
I think the term is problematic and should be reserved for the Indo-Iranians.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Apr 30, 2005 11:37:26 GMT -5
Exactly. Completely Welsh or not, she's still a Briton. And a damned good-looking one at that. >> Is that before or after the plastic surgery? Hispania is the ancient Italian name for Spain.
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Post by mike2 on Apr 30, 2005 12:24:00 GMT -5
Is that before or after the plastic surgery? To be honest, I didn't think she looked too bad before. But she does look good now. Hispania is the ancient Italian name for Spain. Yep.
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