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Post by AWAR on Nov 23, 2003 11:36:26 GMT -5
I trust we can all work here together in a positive atmosphere. No need to be paranoid, no one will ban you because of stating your opinion ( banning is saved for the insults ;D ).
This forum's emphasis should be on learning and exchanging knowledge, there is absolutely no need to act defensive.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Nov 23, 2003 14:13:43 GMT -5
Finally, a forum for Mediterraneans and others to feel comfortable and without the revisionism and logical acrobatics which characterize the Nordnik forums. Let me add that the fact that Nordniks threaten to censor their opponents shows that their positions are very weak. I am all for a forum like this. ;D -Galvez Whatever the hell that means. I never ever in any of my posts anywhere put down or denegrate the "med" subgroup or subrace at all. However, I am still not entirely clear what "med" means anymore because it is not entirely agreed upon how to define it. I will disagree with a poster of "med" extraction from time to time but not because of being "med." I will say this, from what I have read by others, "med" encompasses a segment of population that is hell bent on destroying Western Civilization, i.e. North Africa and the Middle East. I would like to see Europeans and European descended peoples accept the differences and personality quirks that are in us all and remember that our commonalities of our unique characteristics are special to ourselves and worth preserving BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. These unique characteristics that are common amongst us Europids far out number the differences that may exist.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Nov 23, 2003 14:24:15 GMT -5
I trust we can all work here together in a positive atmosphere. No need to be paranoid, no one will ban you because of stating your opinion ( banning is saved for the insults ;D ). This forum's emphasis should be on learning and exchanging knowledge, there is absolutely no need to act defensive. Practice what you preach. The title of this thread has "Nordicist Clown" in it. I suppose I am nordic or nordic looking, I am not sure to be honest. But there is no mistake at all when anyone sees me in person, I am white european descended. What is a "Nordicist?" I have never seen it discussed amongst nords and only seen it mentioned by a few meds. Only do I see it on the RMMB or some similar grouping elsewhere on the INTERNET. This med/nord bickering is internet hobbyist nonesense.
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Post by Dienekes on Nov 23, 2003 14:59:26 GMT -5
What is a "Nordicist?" I have never seen it discussed amongst nords and only seen it mentioned by a few meds. Only do I see it on the RMMB or some similar grouping elsewhere on the INTERNET. This med/nord bickering is internet hobbyist nonesense. According to the Oxford English Dictionary: Nordicism is: "a. The state or condition of being Nordic; the characteristics of the Nordics. b. The belief in or doctrine of the cultural and racial supremacy of the Nordic people. Hence Nordicist, one who believes in the supremacy of the Nordic people. "
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Post by TSUNTZU on Nov 23, 2003 15:25:09 GMT -5
According to the Oxford English Dictionary: Nordicism is: "a. The state or condition of being Nordic; the characteristics of the Nordics. b. The belief in or doctrine of the cultural and racial supremacy of the Nordic people. Hence Nordicist, one who believes in the supremacy of the Nordic people. " Supremacy? I don't think so. I would say one who believes in the preservation of the Nordic people.
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Post by galvez on Nov 23, 2003 18:02:53 GMT -5
TSUNTZU writes:
This definition won't work because many individuals who believe that all races should be preserved are not nor do they consider themselves to be Nordicists. Dienekes's definition according to the Oxford English Dictionary will do.
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Post by AWAR on Nov 23, 2003 18:48:54 GMT -5
I have no beef with nordicists, but I have with clowns You're right about this bickering being purely an internet hobbyist thing, and I've tried a million times to regard it as just that. I don't feel the need to be superior to anyone, I don't think any group of people is genetically superior to anyone else, we're just diverse, that's about it. I personally do not welcome Arthur Kemp's babble, and other pseudo-historians who make unsupported claims and state them as facts. In any case, saying that all the people in the mediterranean area are meds of the same race is just like saying that everyone from Alaska to Skandinavia to Kamchatka is Nordic. You have no need to feel offended by the title of this thread, because I doubt you see yourself a clown.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Nov 23, 2003 21:59:05 GMT -5
TSUNTZU writes: This definition won't work because many individuals who believe that all races should be preserved are not nor do they consider themselves to be Nordicists. Dienekes's definition according to the Oxford English Dictionary will do. RUBBISH!
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Post by galvez on Nov 24, 2003 0:45:07 GMT -5
TSUNTZU writes: A "Nordic" Mexican?
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Post by AWAR on Nov 24, 2003 5:43:09 GMT -5
If you base your allegiance on your phenotype, the best thing to do would be to check out WHAT phenotype you 'own' exactly. ;D
I've seen quite a few people who refer to themselves as being 'nordic' while in reality they are 'nordish-looking' people with a few light-pigmented features, but not unusual or awkward to the region from where they are.
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Post by Dienekes on Nov 24, 2003 6:09:19 GMT -5
I've seen quite a few people who refer to themselves as being 'nordic' while in reality they are 'nordish-looking' people with a few light-pigmented features, but not unusual or awkward to the region from where they are. I think that due to the 150-year-long advocacy for the "blond dolichocephal" and the vast quantity of literature in praise of the "Nordic race" many people with some Nordic-like features want to be seen as Nordic/Nordish. There is also the problem of the old Nordicist myth, that blond hair and light eyes are proof of Nordic origin. There is actually no evidence for this; the majority of light-pigmented people in the world look quite different from the Nordics.
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Post by Dienekes on Nov 24, 2003 6:12:10 GMT -5
These unique characteristics that are common amongst us Europids far out number the differences that may exist. It should be noted that "Europid" should not be used when "European" is meant. By Europids it is commonly meant Caucasoids in anthropology, a broader group of people than Europeans. www.geocities.com/dienekesp4/europids/
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Nov 24, 2003 9:11:25 GMT -5
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Nov 24, 2003 16:52:10 GMT -5
Something else. The thing is Mexican isn’t a race but a nationality and an ethnic identity. They can vary from a Baltic looking person (the other day I saw a Rabbi on the street that wouldn’t look out of place among Estonians) to a very Negroid looking individual. www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/maya/17.jpeg[/img] Black Mexican. The woman who took the above photo, a White Mexican. But obviously most Mexicans are and look mixed. Moreover if you think about it the Mexican nation has always been a multiracial one because before the Spanish rule there was not Mexico but a series of civilized and uncivilized peoples that racially were all the same.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Nov 25, 2003 1:12:32 GMT -5
It should be noted that "Europid" should not be used when "European" is meant. By Europids it is commonly meant Caucasoids in anthropology, a broader group of people than Europeans. www.geocities.com/dienekesp4/europids/O.K. Europeans, not Europids.
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