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Post by Igu on Oct 15, 2005 5:55:26 GMT -5
Don't be a retard, French are pro Arab Well, if average French are like average italians, I suspect they simply ignore the difference! Thank you for this very intelligent remark, so according to you, I have to shut up when people spread lies about my people, just because they don't know who my people are, is that it? Yeah, if an arab iraki kills some shia Irakis and the news say "Berbers killed two ayatollah", I have to shut up...at the end of the day it's the same! it's logic, why bother oneself? Thank you again for this very high and wise thinking.
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Post by osservatore on Oct 15, 2005 10:15:30 GMT -5
Well, if average French are like average italians, I suspect they simply ignore the difference! Thank you for this very intelligent remark, so according to you, I have to shut up when people spread lies about my people, just because they don't know who my people are, is that it? Yeah, if an arab iraki kills some shia Irakis and the news say "Berbers killed two ayatollah", I have to shut up...at the end of the day it's the same! it's logic, why bother oneself? Thank you again for this very high and wise thinking. Sorry Igu but where the heck did I say this? I only said that I believe that the average french knows nothing on ethnic or cultural differences in North Africa. Not that is a positive fact! Don't put words in my mouth and please don't get angry with me! I'm not the cause of european ignorance!
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Post by brownoid on Dec 5, 2005 7:37:59 GMT -5
The EU ethnic make up in 50 years would look pretty awesome i think, far more colorful than it is now.
The UK will continue to have the most diversity. somewhat like Canada, with blacks, browns, yellows, and whites. atleast 1/3rd non-white, 2/3rds white (numerically being around 23m non-white, 47m white i.e. 70m pop).
Ireland will have followed the UK's trend, and could be more, or less ethnic than the UK (it's a small country, currently with a good economy, and high immigration). - So the British isles will be seen as the 'ethnic isles'. ;D
The rest of the EU will have a more polarised (and 'boring') minority population. But will have made attempts to diversify their immigrants i.e. France will still have a large north african muslim population, but will also have many new immigrants from all countries. Scandinavian countries will likely have more diversity of minorities, and southern european and eastern european countries will have less diversity of minorities.
Most EU govt's will have diversification policies (like the US introduced in the 90's) to avoid the problems that are common in bicultural societies - essentially to prevent any specific minority becoming too influential. EU govt's may also have dispersion policies, the goal of this would be to avoid ghettofication in cities, and have a more evenly spread minority population across all regions of the country. Finally EU govt's may introduce EU cross-national exchange programs & interconnected immigration policy. So for instance, France has a lot of north africans, the UK has a lot of south asians - the UK could encourage more north africans, and France could encourage more south asians, increasing diversity in both nations, and reducing the threat of minority 5th columnists.
due in part to many EU govt's lack of foresight, but also due to world demographics, and culture-clash, the muslim minority will be the biggest issue for europe to deal with.
that is the simple fact that muslims make up the largest minority group in the EU, and have the fastest natural growth, and have a knack for sustaining high birth-rates thru generations. this means that virtually nothing (besides continued mass immigration of non-muslims into the EU, or genocide) will stop the continued growth of muslims as a %age of the EU population, and thus the inevitable full islamification of the EU. The same is also true for the US, except their muslim population is very small, more affluent, and the US less socialist, but the US muslim population will still continuously grow, just at a slower rate. so the ball's been set in motion.
the muslim issue is more of a cultural issue than a pheonptypical issue. thus not a question of "What will Europeans look like in 100 years, but what will Europeans be doing in 100 years".
Strides in science and technology over this century will likely throw a spanner in the works for the muslim 'crusade' though.
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Post by arthas on Dec 5, 2005 17:30:06 GMT -5
The first nation in Europe that will become a minority in its own country are Macedonians. Albanians account for about 40% of today's Macedonia's population (if I remember correctly) and their number is still growing.... Albanians have always been the majority in the west of so called macedonia, macedonia has also a large slavic muslim population their names ends usually with ovski like the football player Yksel Osmanovski, macedonia has also a large turkish minority they often get confused as albanian because of muslim faith.Also if I know the history right real macedonians are greeks and have nothing to do with your makedons and balkan boundaries are made by big powers without looking why lives there.
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Post by nerdling301 on Dec 24, 2005 12:51:10 GMT -5
i think that the slavic countries will preserve their racial homogeneity, since if you look at the statistics now, they currently have the lowest percentage of arabic/moorish/african peoples in their countries. Plus, countries like Slovakia still are heavily Catholic (let's not talk about Czech Republic for now, haha), and might serve as a bastion of Christianity in the years to come. Combined with a positive population growth percentage, they will become more powerful as older european corporations shift their loyalties eastward because of the inherent bias to stick with traditional europeans to do their work and represent them
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