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Post by byz on Dec 26, 2005 5:32:52 GMT -5
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 26, 2005 5:41:32 GMT -5
Nonsense, you cannot compare the plight of homosexuals to racism against blacks, homosexuals aren't born gay and they can certainly stop being gay if they want to. Inversely can you turn gay if you want to? Its possible that I could but very very very unlikely. Why would I want to be a homo in the first place? Homosexuality is against nature and against God, even you Muslims see it as an abomination. You can hate the sin without hating the person. Nonsense, this is a subtle form of supporting homsexual sex. Wha should be taught is that they should keep their sexual practices to themselves and that homosexuality is wrong. If it was right there would be no children, would there? Nonsense, its none of my business to know if a person is homosexual and I don't want to hear about. If a person engages in homosexual sex why the hell should I know, and why does that person feel the need to tell the world that he/she engages in sodomy? Homosexual sex is offensive so if a gay person ignores my wishes not to know want to know or hear about their sexual lifestyle that person is being intolerant.
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Post by byz on Dec 26, 2005 5:46:22 GMT -5
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Post by Josh on Dec 26, 2005 5:58:39 GMT -5
Nonsense, its none of my business to know if a person is homosexual and I don't want to hear about. If a person engages in homosexual sex why the hell should I know, and why does that person feel the need to tell the world that he/she engages in sodomy? Homosexual sex is offensive so if a gay person ignores my wishes not to know want to know or hear about their sexual lifestyle that person is being intolerant. You act as if homosexuals only think about sex. I feel like doing a little reversal: ;D "Nonsense, its none of my business to know if a person is heterosexual and I don't want to hear about. If a person engages in heterosexual sex why the hell should I know, and why does that person feel the need to tell the world that he engages in vaginal penetration? Heterosexual sex is offensive so if a straight person ignores my wishes not to know want to know or hear about their sexual lifestyle that person is being intolerant." Notice how ridiculous that sounds. You know why? Because it is based on the idea that one should think of somebody's bedtime habits upon hearing of one's sexual orientiation instead of simply the desired gender of their potential romantic partner. You don't do that when you know someone is straight, so why do the same when you know someone is gay? If someone says, "I'm gay," that is what they said, not, "I like to sodomize left and right." Likewise, when someone says, "I'm straight," they are not saying, "I penetrate women all night long." As I said, no need to think about one's sexual habits unless they actually bring them up.
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Post by wadad on Dec 26, 2005 6:09:48 GMT -5
Could you elaborate? people are sexual from birth (prior to it too). I know that even toddlers beat their meat from time to time
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Post by byz on Dec 26, 2005 6:25:07 GMT -5
Actually Charlie Bass many Gays have said they have always known that they are the way they are since they were kids like the blonde fag from Queer Eye said on Oprah that he has known he was Gay since he was a toddler since even as a little boy he would dress up in women's clothes and carry around a purse for fun.You're clearly referring to a cultural behavioural pattern. The individual whom you described with "blonde fag" just early noticed that he wasn't capable of competing against other males. That's why he started to imitate women instead of men. As for gays, they simply belong to a subculture in the West. They cannot be "born gay" because there is no sexual orientation without any sexuality. The formative aspects of sexuality are inherent. Sexual orientation is solidified during early childhood, but pre-natal biological factors are also believed to be at play.
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Post by wadad on Dec 26, 2005 6:34:48 GMT -5
Could you elaborate? people are sexual from birth (prior to it too). I know that even toddlers beat their meat from time to time Sexual activity is nothing else but copulation and the direct preparation for it. Btw, your statement is typical for paedophiles and hippies. Im not talking about sexual activity. Read byz's links they are a good read. Whether my statement is typical for paedophiles and hippies or not is very irrelevant. Whats relevant is its a fact since I've seen it with my eyes. Whats wrong with hippies?
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Post by ibra on Dec 26, 2005 6:43:21 GMT -5
Actually his statement is typical of a person in touch with reality. Saying that homosexually is a western thing, is also historically inaccurate.
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Post by byz on Dec 26, 2005 6:44:48 GMT -5
The formative aspects of sexuality are inherent. Sexual orientation is solidified during early childhood, but pre-natal biological factors are also believed to be at play. The prenatal factor is that some people (the so-called "bichas") lack a competitive temperament. They are omega males by mentality. Therefore, they more likely than others to seek the favour of stronger males who could protect them. Those homosexual stronger males (so-called "machos") simply have a dull mentality by birth. That's why they can get used to homosexual activities. HAHAHA! No true rebuttal required, the stupidity of your statement denies its relevance.
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Post by anodyne on Dec 26, 2005 6:46:08 GMT -5
Charlie, they chose to get a hard on when they see a guy but choose to have a limp penis when they see a woman? Actually Charlie Bass many Gays have said they have always known that they are the way they are since they were kids like the blonde fag from Queer Eye said on Oprah that he has known he was Gay since he was a toddler since even as a little boy he would dress up in women's clothes and carry around a purse for fun.You're clearly referring to a cultural behavioural pattern. The individual whom you described with "blonde fag" just early noticed that he wasn't capable of competing against other males. That's why he started to imitate women instead of men. As for gays, they simply belong to a subculture in the West. They cannot be "born gay" because there is no sexual orientation without any sexuality. I had a gay roommate once. He didn't strike me as someone who just woke up one day and said "all my guy friends seems to like to have sex with woman but this gay subculture seems really hip." Nor does it seem likely they were out competed by other males. If that was the case half the guys who sat with me for lunch in high school would have been given each other hand jobs in the boys bathroom. I believe there are slightly more women in our society than men. The odds are pretty damn good you'll score one. And, of course, there's always hookers. Very popular among the fellas.
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Post by wadad on Dec 26, 2005 7:03:18 GMT -5
Im not talking about sexual activity. Read byz's links they are a good read. Whether my statement is typical for paedophiles and hippies or not is very irrelevant. Whats relevant is its a fact since I've seen it with my eyes. Whats wrong with hippies? If so, ok. Maybe there is a difference for you between sexuality and sexual activity. Such peculiar aspects of your culture are not so important to me. Mr foreigner, my culture is so peculiar, so alien and different from your pressumptions that even a foreignor like yourself will be shocked at how outlandishly far-fetched my cultural origins are from your expectations Perhaps its my personal opinion you find peculiar...trust me my culture favours your arguments much more to mine.
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Post by blueskygod on Dec 26, 2005 7:23:08 GMT -5
Men that choose other men as life companions, and reject sexual intercourse with women are just suffering from mental problems. Look at animals, a diog might make to another male dog' bottom once in a while, but you don't see male dogs humping males exclusively. We don't take kindly to your types . Sorry I just always wanted to say that, I have nothing against homosexuals. It's funny how there are no Greeks here trying to defend their ancestors' gay past. BTW how was lesbianism dealt with in Ancient Greece and Rome?
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 26, 2005 8:13:18 GMT -5
Look, you people than condone homosexuality have God to answer to, not me. I don't care about homosexuality and don't care to discuss it.
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Post by metrosensual on Dec 26, 2005 8:27:29 GMT -5
Yeah, that was in the news. I'm gay myself and I think homophobia should be stamped out and treated as severely as racism. I mean songs that openly encourage and incite racial hatred are banned from the mainstream whereas songs with homophobic slurs are let through. It's wrong. Personally though, I'm never ashamed of my sexuality. Homosexuality is an abomination to God, why don't you tell God that its ok to be homosexual? I agree that there should be no songs inciting violence against you Easy. I don't believe in God. God is the creation of man. Not the other way round darling. Plus, homosexuality is NOT a religious abomination. In ancient Hindu and Buddhist temples that span millenia in India (Khajuraho, Ajanta, Elora, Orissa etc...) there are numerous sculptures that depict homosexuality and even though many Hindus and Buddhists are themselves not too comfortable with homosexuality, if you read the Vedas carefully, you'll find that some Sutra-based passages inder that 'homosexuality should not be rejected, it should be viewed as the path for it's recipient.' Nonsense, you cannot compare the plight of homosexuals to racism against blacks, homosexuals aren't born gay and they can certainly stop being gay if they want to. I could never put myself in the shoes of a homosexual beacuse that lifestyle is not conducive to the Will and Word of God and goes against nature. I have the right to disagree with a homosexual lifestyle, especially with those homosexuals who want to teach children that its ok to homosexual, WTH? If homosexuals kept what they do in their bedroom to themselves they would not have any problems. Tolerance, lol, whats next, tolerance for people who like to have sex with animals? Sexual deviance is a mental disease. I couldn't care less about 'God's' Will. To me, God is non-existent - just something humans made up a long time ago to feel a sense of purpose. Also, you must be one very narrow minded person because bestiality never came into the equation and homosexuality is OK. No one's asking heterosexual people to be gay, we just want tolerance and the right to feel safe in our wider communities and this can only be achieved when everybody finds that homosexuality doesn't NEED to bother heterosexual individual - it just needs to be accepted. Sexual deviance is not the mental disease, narrow-mindedness however, is. P.S. We ARE born gay more or less. The tendency becomes surpressed until puberty when sexual desires and sexual identity become more apparent to the individual. LOL - I thought that research has strongly suggested that many people are born "gay". There is no scientifically recognised case of anyone being "cured" of homosexuality, or being able to choose otherwise (unless they are bisexual). Homosexuality even occurs in the animal kingdom - now, does the Bible say that animals have freedom of choice or commit sin? Homosexuality appears to be a natural part of sexual variation, and many different explanations have been posited. Sex is more than just reproduction, after all - it also relates to various social functions. When I imagine how tough it would be if I were gay, it makes me sad to think that society at large does not provide its acceptance. This is a pattern seen in the history of many minority groups. There is no scientific research that says people are born gay, please back this. Homosexuals chose to be gay because they enjoy it, not because they can't help it. It sure as hell isn't natural because it goes against procreation. Is bestiality also a part of natural sexual variation. there is no such thing as bisexuality, either you're gay or you're straight. Erm...we can't just become 'gay' we always ARE gay. And gay people can't make themselves straight either. It's not because we enjoy it's because we ARE it. I don't even want children so why should I care about procreation? Again, bestiality didn't come into the question - you're adding wood to a non-existent fire. Plus, I have many bisexual friends and they have a genuine sexual interest in both genders. There you go, explained it. Men that choose other men as life companions, and reject sexual intercourse with women are just suffering from mental problems. Look at animals, a diog might make to another male dog' bottom once in a while, but you don't see male dogs humping males exclusively. We don't take kindly to your types . Sorry I just always wanted to say that, I have nothing against homosexuals. It's funny how there are no Greeks here trying to defend their ancestors' gay past. BTW how was lesbianism dealt with in Ancient Greece and Rome? Erm...we don't suffer from mental problems. We want to Have life partners too, it's just that we find them in other males because it's who we are. Ultimately, none of us want to be alone and I don't see why homosexual coupling affects you. So much narrow-mindedness it's unbelievable. PEOPLE ARE HOMOSEXUAL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO CHANGE IT AND NEVER WILL. WE'RE HAPPY WITH OUR LIFESTYLE JUST AS YOU ARE. WE'RE NOT MENTAL, WE'RE NOT DISEASED, WE'RE JUST AS HUMAN AS YOU. WE JUST HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS.
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Post by decadence on Dec 26, 2005 8:28:31 GMT -5
Liberalism and homosexuality go hand and hand.
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