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Re: Words Over Actions « Reply #31 on Feb 8, 2006, 6:25am »
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First, the cartoons were anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli, period. (The very definition of zionism as used in muslim countries is anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli, so don't give me this antiZionism bs). And they were offenisive. Yet no one rioted or burned down embassies over them, like feral oafs.
if all the jews are zionists then you are right. the cartoons are directed to zionist situations
btw, I don't really want to bring the jew thing too much, but if something like this was done to the jews, then they too would sure not let it pass, and they would probably be able to get an appology or something
Re: Words Over Actions « Reply #32 on Feb 8, 2006, 10:57am »
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if all the jews are zionists then you are right. the cartoons are directed to zionist situations
No, the cartoons are definitely anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli. Calling it anti-Zionist is just an underhanded way to avoid the issue. The very definition and implication of the word "zionist" as used in the Arab world is anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli. But you wouldn't be able to see that, since there's a high chance that you've been thoroughly brainwashed by your government and the people around you with anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli propaganda.
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btw, I don't really want to bring the jew thing too much, but if something like this was done to the jews, then they too would sure not let it pass, and they would probably be able to get an appology or something
If something like this was done to the Jews, the Jews would not riot nor burn down embassies. Yes, they would be able to get an apology, but so did the Muslims. Are you forgetting this? The paper did apologize after all, but that's not enough for them apparently.
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Re: Words Over Actions « Reply #33 on Feb 8, 2006, 4:04pm »
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if all the jews are zionists then you are right. the cartoons are directed to zionist situations
No, the cartoons are definitely anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli. Calling it anti-Zionist is just an underhanded way to avoid the issue. The very definition and implication of the word "zionist" as used in the Arab world is anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli. But you wouldn't be able to see that, since there's a high chance that you've been thoroughly brainwashed by your government and the people around you with anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli propaganda.
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btw, I don't really want to bring the jew thing too much, but if something like this was done to the jews, then they too would sure not let it pass, and they would probably be able to get an appology or something
If something like this was done to the Jews, the Jews would not riot nor burn down embassies. Yes, they would be able to get an apology, but so did the Muslims. Are you forgetting this? The paper did apologize after all, but that's not enough for them apparently.
yes 1.2 billion muslims rioted and burned stuff. actually the paper probably appologised (or were pushed to) after they saw the serious reaction of what they have done. I think they refused to appologise at the beging.
there were efforts to fight the cartoons in denmark (in oct 2005 before they got all the attention), but it didn't go through
anyways, no need to answer me because I ve been thoroughly brainwashed by my government and the people around me with anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli propaganda.
Re: Words Over Actions « Reply #34 on Feb 8, 2006, 5:46pm »
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anyways, no need to answer me because I ve been thoroughly brainwashed by my government and the people around me with anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli propaganda
If anything, that would be a reason to answer you. Don't take it so close to heart, but you know that there's some truth to it. You're attempts to dismiss the anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli cartoons as "anti-Zionist" and therefore supposedly somehow justified, not once but twice, were detestable and uncalled for.
Re: Words Over Actions « Reply #36 on Feb 11, 2006, 10:54pm »
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>>>>Oh, really, the fanatics and killers are non-believers in Allah?
No, they are not true Muslims. Anyone who does thing contra to the Word of God, be he Muslim, jew or Christian are nonbelievers no matter how much they proclaim themselves to be followers of their religion
Yes, it's true Osama has doctrinal issues, like for one, he declared Jihad which he's not allowed to do, but that's a faulty statement. That's irrelevant. Breaking the law by any of the three religions doesn't exclude a person from "true belief", and in the case of Christianity the person is necessarily a law breaker, and constantly.
And I don't see you showing any scriptural support for that statement.
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