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"Asian Eyes"
« Thread Started on Jan 24, 2006, 12:25am »

This may sound dumb but I am still learning. . . Which orientals have the most "westernized" eyes and why?

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« Reply #1 on Jan 24, 2006, 1:19am »

Filipinos and Singaporeans have the least amount of epicanthal fold due to admixture. Filipinos are of Malayo-Polynesian stock mixed with significant Negrito ancestry. Singaporeans are a mix of Chinese/MOngloid stock with a Polynesian admixture.

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #2 on Jan 24, 2006, 2:39pm »

what about khmers, would they still be considered orientals?

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« Reply #3 on Jan 24, 2006, 3:31pm »

They do. They have a strong sense of pride. They are very pretty people and I guess you can classify them with Filipinos and Singaporeans as being the "least mongloid' in respect with eye fold.

Also, some Thai-usually darker to medium coloured Thai have less Epicanthal fold.

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #4 on Jan 24, 2006, 10:05pm »

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I would say Filipinos and Indonesians. Singaporeans looks rather Chinese.

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« Reply #5 on Jan 24, 2006, 11:17pm »

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I would say Filipinos and Indonesians. Singaporeans looks rather Chinese.

That's because they are. Or atleast the majority I believe. Anyways, I would say Southeast Asians such as Malaysians, Indonesians, Filipinos, Cambodians, and to an extent, in southern Burma and Thailand, there are a higher percentage of people with no Epicanthal fold, giving an ambigious look...

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #6 on Jan 25, 2006, 12:06am »

Most Cambodians are on the more mongloid spectrum.

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #7 on Jan 25, 2006, 12:34am »

so does it correlate to skin color..basically the darker skin an oriental has, the less likely they are to have an epicanthal fold? What about the southern chinese?

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #8 on Jan 25, 2006, 1:22am »

Dude, look - basically the "Mongolid core" is Siberia. The main forms are the Tungid (the primitive/original form) and the Sinid (newer form). The further south you go, the more "Australoid" things become, which a dark, non-Mongolid, hairy thing without "Asian eyes".

By the time you're in southern China, pretty Australoid "palaemongolids" become quite common:
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And by the time you get to Cambodia, things are (AFAIK) predominantly East Weddid (Australoid in the widest sense).

So not "more on the mongloid spectrum".

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« Reply #9 on Jan 25, 2006, 1:23am »

Cambodians "do" appear more "maxxed" than typical Filipinos. That's why I stated that. The OP was asking for a range. Laotians, Cambodians, and Vietnamese are more "epicanthal" than say a Filipino or Singaporean.

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #11 on Jan 25, 2006, 1:57am »

Cambodians, for the most part, are less "Mongoloid" in appearance then filipinos, Burmese, Laos, Thais and Vietnamese... I'd say Indonesians, Malaysians and Cambodians have the most "Australoid" mixture...

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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #12 on Jan 25, 2006, 1:23pm »

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This may sound dumb but I am still learning. . . Which orientals have the most "westernized" eyes and why?

From my experience, most of southern/southeastern Asians got round/westernized eyes. Some people said that the people in the north tend to close or narrow their eyes to avoid the cold wind, snow and sand, but in the south the people don't have to, heheh.

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« Reply #13 on Jan 25, 2006, 1:29pm »

Some Filipinos are pretty non-mongoloid looking, with curly hair and all.

These are Cambodians:

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Here's some random Cambodians compared to some random Filipinos:
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Filipinos

Don't forget Laos
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Re: "Asian Eyes"
« Reply #14 on Jan 25, 2006, 3:32pm »

I agree that there is a difference...but don't eyes change a lot from childhood to adulthood? Because the Cambodian children had wide eyes but they were children, who knows what the Filipinos you showed look like when they were younger.

I dunno if any of you listen to the Black Eyed Peas, but one of their rappers if Filipino and in one of his music videos they show pictures of his childhood (APL song) and the children were filipino but looked just like the Cambodian children you showed.

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