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The Sinoid spectrum in East Asia
« Thread Started on Sept 26, 2005, 8:59pm »

This is mostly a summary of varioius other threads about that topic:

The Sinid spectrum is very important for the Mongolid race, its the most numerous and culturally most evolved group, includes the great nations of China, Korea and Japan. The Sinoid spectrum also includes the Palaemongolid reduced-infantilised, and partly with Weddoid-Negritid types mixed groups of the South, which became their Mongolid component from the Sinoids in various waves.

As I said the main facts are:
A) There are two basic Mongolid types of the North, SINID AND TUNGID.
B) In Sinids is a gradient from North to South which was distorted by the Han Chinese and other movements, but the real indigenous populations still show a clear pattern (aka Manchu - North vs Yao - South).

Pictures from anthropological books:
As for the difference between Tungids and Sinids, just look at this thread on Stirpes or the pictures here (most are here as well):
http://forum.stirpes.net/showthread.php?t=2343
http://dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?....read=1117542626

Especially this examples which are from a book from the 1996:
http://img184.echo.cx/my.php?image=knussmanns4342mg.jpg

The morphological differences between the two types of the North (Tungid and Sinid) are just obvious. The typical low forehead, broad-flat-fat face with massive cheekbones of Tungids is just typical, as are the higher, finer, narrower and more differentiated faces of the Sinid type:
http://img184.echo.cx/my.php?image=knussmanns4342mg.jpg

The Tibetan is Mittelsinid, a Nordsinid would be even more extreme like you can see on this picture:
http://img101.echo.cx/my.php?image=2044ce.jpg

Generally I repeat the difference between Sinid and Palaemongolid:
Btw, did you ever saw the LBI maps for Asia? If you get one you might notice the are of lower LBI in North East China.
Some metrical differences from the Sinid to the Palaemongolid (South) areas:
.) higher body height.
.) higher skelic index (shorter legs).
.) with some regional exceptions lower LBI
.) lower HLI
.) higher absolute middle face height
.) lower nasal index on the skull
.) lighter pigmentation

Map:
http://img200.echo.cx/my.php?image=rassenasiens8mq.jpg

For Eastern Chinese (not the West) coastline its like that: Northernmost - Tungids: broad face, high LBI, low HLI, strong subcutaneous fat, extreme Mongolid features (epicanthus, high cheekbones etc.), medium-tall, etc.
North - Nordsinids: narrow face+noses, low LBI, high HLI, medium (for Mongolids) subcutaneous fat, Mongolid features, tall, light pigmented etc.
Central - Mittelsinids: two variants, one rather broad faced, other medium-narrow faced, higher LBI, but regional differences, high HLI, medium fat, Mongolid features, medium-tall, medium pigmented for the region etc.
Southern - Suedsinids: broader faces, noses+higher LBI on average, regional differences, very high HLI, lower fat, Mongolid features weaker, medium-short, stronger pigmented, longer legs etc.

Furthermore Mittelsinid is really not the best term, but still the most useful one, for variants in question. Because the coastal group which is what you described (broad faced-headed etc.) is just one element. Whereas Nordsinid is clear and Suedsinids again, Mittelsinid is really a term for grouping all the groups in between together, including the main variant, mainly on the Central Chinese coastal region, but expanding to the South.
The Tibetids, which some, most include into the Mittelsinid spectrum, is a different subtype obviously, but certain features they have in common.

The more dry Northern millet farmer regions, the central Hwangho was and mostly is a Nordsinid centre. Mittelsinids are more common in the rice farmer areas of the great rivers. The Nordsinids were the "original Chinese" and expanded Southwards, assimilating first the Mittelsinid rice farmers and then the Suedsinid farmers and H-G groups. They pressed them partly Southwards, empires in the South, Manchuria was slowly made (Nord-) Sinid by race too.
Most typical populations Manchu, Lolo (Yi - original group-upper class) for Nordsinid, Miao Mittelsinid, Yao Suedsinid.
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