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Re: Afrocentrism (hannibal's movie)
« Reply #60 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:23pm »
Seriously, through ancient Egyptian artistic conventions, it might be difficult to tell apart drawings of these two completely different racial types because of their superficial similarity:
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Black hair, fine features, light to medium dark skin, and leptomorphic body proportions. Completely different racial types, but similar enough in those ways to frustrate a quick and easy answer to the Egyptian race debate.

When the Egyptian appearance ranges from looking like this:
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To looking like this:
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You know you've got a problem.
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« Reply #61 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:29pm »

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One does not need to limit or delimit themselves to studying and focusing on any one particular place in Africa because in some way shape or form nearly all the kingdoms and civilizations in Africa are linked, either through trade, warfare or historical contact or as allies.


Nobody is limiting anyone to a particular place. I took the time to read up on the named West African civs., Im sure elizabeth is smart enough to do the same, I listed those empires because she should definitely start closer to home, if she wants to embrace African history, the same way I started with Horn of Africa and then looked for their links with the rest of the continent.

Most importantly, someone like Elizabeth should not brainwash herself to convince herself something which totally false (which you did not bother to address or correct, keep in mind for the most part, apologists do more harm than good ) like travelling to the Egyptian countryside and bumping into all these African American look alikes.
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« Reply #62 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:34pm »

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Nobody is limiting anyone to a particular place. I took the time to read up on the named West African civs., Im sure elizabeth is smart enough to do the same, I listed those empires because she should definitely start closer to home, if she wants to embrace African history, the same way I started with Horn of Africa and then looked for their links with the rest of the continent.

Most importantly, someone like Elizabeth should not brainwash herself to convince herself something which totally false (which you did not bother to address or correct, keep in mind for the most part, apologists do more harm than good ) like travelling to the Egyptian countryside and bumping into all these African American look alikes.


I would say she's partially right isīn saying that some Egyptians look like African-Americans but most do not, I agree here. OTOH, I can't call her a liar because I don't who she saw in Egypt.
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« Reply #63 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:35pm »
Anyone wanna comment on my comparison? I think I make a good point.
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« Reply #64 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:41pm »

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If most Egyptians looked like those people you just posted its fair to say that very little to no Egyptians were white people. IMO, ancient Egyptians were a blend on elongated types and people like Qadaffi varying degrees, at least in the Late Dyanstic and Dynastic period with a north south gradient.
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« Reply #65 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:46pm »
i know what im talking about there are Plenty of black egyptians! Black egypt is reality not fantasy, have you are been to egypt? ::) they did in deed call Sudan their Ancestral land, ok these totally black looking people and children everywhere
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« Reply #66 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:47pm »

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Anyone wanna comment on my comparison? I think I make a good point.


If most Egyptians looked like those people you just posted its fair to say that very little to no Egyptians were white people. IMO, ancient Egyptians were a blend on elongated types and people like Qadaffi varying degrees, at least in the Late Dyanstic and Dynastic period with a north south gradient.
i dont think qadaffi is mullato at all he looks identical to jewish composer/musician Ariel Zilber who by his name i assume to be ashkenaz
[image] Ariel Zilber
[image] Qadaffi
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« Reply #67 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:49pm »

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Mike I agree with this very wholly.However Saharid/Libyan and Aethiopid/Horner may be just the core group seeing that Arabid, Levantine (Canaanites/Hyksos?) and Nilo-Saharan (Nubian,) elements (ignore my clumsy terms) contributed in varying degrees as well.
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i know what im talking about there are Plenty of black egyptians! Black egypt is reality not fantasy, have you are been to egypt? ::) they did in deed call Sudan their Ancestral land, ok these totally black looking people and children everywhere


Elizabeth I've been to Egypt twice ;)

I dont deny there are Black Egyptians in Egypt btw...but they are definitely a minority
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« Reply #69 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:50pm »

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If most Egyptians looked like those people you just posted its fair to say that very little to no Egyptians were white people. IMO, ancient Egyptians were a blend on elongated types and people like Qadaffi varying degrees, at least in the Late Dyanstic and Dynastic period with a north south gradient.
i dont think qadaffi is mullato at all he looks identical to jewish composer/musician Ariel Zilber who by his name i assume to be ashkenaz
[image] Ariel Zilber
[image] Qadaffi
anyone agree on resemblance?
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Re: Afrocentrism (hannibal's movie)
« Reply #70 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:52pm »
tssh haha well i know the Egyptians i saw were Not nubians
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« Reply #71 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:53pm »
Elizabeth do u see a resemblance between the two men i posted(yes i know qadafi aint egyptian but people keep posting him as mullato)
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Re: Afrocentrism (hannibal's movie)
« Reply #72 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:53pm »
Yes, Yigal, they're both robust and wrinkly. :D

Tommy Lee Jones is similar.

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i dont think qadaffi is mullato at all he looks identical to jewish composer/musician Ariel Zilber who by his name i assume to be ashkenaz
[image] Ariel Zilber
[image] Qadaffi
anyone agree on resemblance?


i dont think Bass called Qaddafi a mulattoe
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Re: Afrocentrism (hannibal's movie)
« Reply #74 on Dec 28, 2005, 1:55pm »
Bass, who's calling Egyptians white (a silly social term)? The argument is the Caucasoid component. Caucasoids don't all look like Opie. And the ones pertinent to Egypt are the ones that look like Qaddafi.
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