DODONA: Human Biodiversity Discussion Forum
« What are some of your thoughts on Turkey? »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
May 25, 2013, 12:37am

[Home] [New Topics] [Help] [Search] [Login]



DODONA: Human Biodiversity Discussion Forum :: Culture and Society :: Futurism :: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Page 2 of 5 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]
AuthorTopic: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey? (Read 5,133 times)
mike2
Guest
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #15 on May 1, 2005, 1:41am »

Quote:
Turkey is non-European and non-White. It has attempted to 'crash' the European party and now wants in. I'm afraid this 'child who plays poorly with others' (another being Germany) has its roots in Central Asia and the Middle East, not Europe.

As one BBC reporter commented in a bit of a Freudian slip: "Turkish entry into the EU would change the complexion of Europe." No kidding.


The east of the country, yes, the roots are mainly Middle Eastern with a Central Asian topping, as indicated by the Armenoid and Turanid elements. But the western part of the country is Dinaric and Pontic Mediterranean country, and is just a victim of geography. The people of western Turkey are akin to Europeans, and in my mind's eye, are basically Turkified Greeks.
« Last Edit: May 1, 2005, 1:42am by mike2 »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
buddyrydell
Guest
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #16 on May 1, 2005, 3:36am »

Quote:


The east of the country, yes, the roots are mainly Middle Eastern with a Central Asian topping, as indicated by the Armenoid and Turanid elements. But the western part of the country is Dinaric and Pontic Mediterranean country, and is just a victim of geography. The people of western Turkey are akin to Europeans, and in my mind's eye, are basically Turkified Greeks.


Yes, western Turks look essentially like their European neighbors as they basically have the same ancestry (mostly Greek with some Roman, Thracian, and Slavic ancestry). Eastern Turks are more like their Persian neighbors (and to a lesser extent the Turkomans of Central Asia). Turkey's unique position at the crossroads of Europe and Asia has resulted in its being by far the most Westernized Middle Eastern nation. I don't see what the big deal is about Turkey joining the EU just because they happen to be Muslim or have certain ties to the Middle East.
« Last Edit: May 1, 2005, 3:38am by buddyrydell »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
uygurkazak1988
Full Member
***
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 109
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #17 on May 1, 2005, 7:38am »
Turkified Greeks? So it's on;ly greeks that have light features in this world. the turkic peoples had no light features of their own. death to greece... in football.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Ne mutlu Turkum Diyene!http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/uygur_turan/halilavatar.jpg
Berter
New Member
*
member is offline

[avatar]

Et si on fait un tour ensemble, Nouna!?



Joined: May 2005
Posts: 6
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #18 on May 1, 2005, 8:17am »
Europeans think by their 'pockets'. One day, Turkey will join the EU ...Its a matter of time only!. 8-)
[image]
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Evil Berber!
henerte
God
*****
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2003
Gender: Male
Posts: 751
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #19 on May 1, 2005, 8:29am »

Quote:


Yes, western Turks look essentially like their European neighbors as they basically have the same ancestry (mostly Greek with some Roman, Thracian, and Slavic ancestry). Eastern Turks are more like their Persian neighbors (and to a lesser extent the Turkomans of Central Asia).


That has no importance. Voters and politicians don't ponder over "racial & historical makeup of the Turkish nation". For many of them, Turks and Arabs are the same people.


Quote:
Turkey's unique position at the crossroads of Europe and Asia has resulted in its being by far the most Westernized Middle Eastern nation. I don't see what the big deal is about Turkey joining the EU just because they happen to be Muslim or have certain ties to the Middle East.


If it's not a big deal, how about Turkey becoming the 51st state of America? ;)

Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
nockwasright
God
*****
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,695
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #20 on May 2, 2005, 4:21am »

Quote:


I don't see what the big deal is about Turkey joining the EU just because they happen to be Muslim or have certain ties to the Middle East.


If being of an another religion and having ties with a completely foreign (to Europe) and dangerous area is not a big deal, I wonder what could be a big deal.

Once I made to an American leftish professor who was bashing Europeans for their racist attitude toward Turkey the exact same Henerte's suggestion: why don't you take it as an American state?
He answered the issue for them was Mexico, and he seemed eager to prove they were more pc than us showing Americans are willing to admit Mexico as another USA's state. This rich professor actually was much more in favor of such joining than any Mexican I have ever heard on the subject, not to speak about Americans. I thought he was perfectly ready to favor any event, regardless of its actual consequences on real persons, as long as it satisfied his lust for assumed moral superiority.
Let's hope we can prevent our corrispondent eurocriminalpoliticians to create this historical monster and open borders with 50.000.000 muslims just to prove they are open minded.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Dienekes
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Nothing in excess


[homepage]

Joined: Nov 2003
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,762
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #21 on May 2, 2005, 5:23am »

Quote:



Turks are more European than you are, considering that from what I understand, you have about 30% Mongol blood.


European is a geographical not a racial one. Turks are by definition not European.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Dienekes
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Nothing in excess


[homepage]

Joined: Nov 2003
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,762
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #22 on May 2, 2005, 5:28am »

Quote:


But the western part of the country is Dinaric and Pontic Mediterranean country, and is just a victim of geography.


Interestingly though, the part of Turkey bordering the Aegean has a population that is 6.7% Negroid and 13.3% Mongoloid patrilineally.

http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/HG_2004_v114_p127-148.pdf
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Tautamo
Guest
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #23 on May 2, 2005, 6:21am »
Turks are related to other eastern european people .what turkey isnt is culturally "european" especially religiously.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
uygurkazak1988
Full Member
***
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 109
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #24 on May 2, 2005, 8:42am »
Yea Europe is only for the christians!
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Ne mutlu Turkum Diyene!http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/uygur_turan/halilavatar.jpg
henerte
God
*****
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2003
Gender: Male
Posts: 751
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #25 on May 2, 2005, 10:15am »
Religion & culture is one thing. But I believe that nobody will ever have any problems with Albania joining the EU.

What's more important is the size of Turkey and it's geopolitical situation.

By the time Turkey joins the EU, they will be the biggest country inside the EU with the most votes. There's a proposal of tying the number of votes not only with population of a given country but also with it's GDP. However I don't think that this change will ever be introduced.

Do you know any european who can imagine himself living in a country (UE) that borders with Iraq?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
uygurkazak1988
Full Member
***
member is offline





Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 109
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #26 on May 3, 2005, 5:18am »
Turkey's too "chicken" to be in Europe. get it get it ;D?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Ne mutlu Turkum Diyene!http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/uygur_turan/halilavatar.jpg
PARMENION
New Member
*
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19
Location: MACEDONIA,GREECE
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #27 on May 9, 2005, 4:55am »
I will have to disagree with turkey joining the E.U.
First of all it is not a European country (geographicaly speaking ).If turkey joins,then..Moroco might want to join too!!...who would say no to them if the Europeans let a non-European country join the E.U.??
Turkey has to do something with the human rights issue.They are still governed by their army!!
Not to mention the violations of the Greek air space.They should be more friendly to their neighbours,especially the European ones! and leave aside all the "mucho" behaviour!
Their borders are not stable.Europe does not want unstable borders ( i think ).
Their economy sucks.We can not afford to "pay" for them!
I could state many more facts.
For the above reasons and for many more,i vote "no"!
« Last Edit: May 9, 2005, 4:56am by PARMENION »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
THANK GOD I AM GREEK
Meddish
Senior Member
****
member is offline

[avatar]

Happy is he who is an Arab!



Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 294
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #28 on May 9, 2005, 7:07am »
I say NO to Turkiye in the E.U. only something like 10% of Turkiyes landmass is in Europe.It's ties racially and culturally are to asia and the middle-east and it should work with it's muslim brothers to create a strong and powerfull middle-east of a hundred flags rather then be the sick humilated dog of it's european masters :)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
From the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, Palestine will be free!
PARMENION
New Member
*
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19
Location: MACEDONIA,GREECE
Re: What are some of your thoughts on Turkey?
« Reply #29 on May 9, 2005, 4:28pm »
Stay out then!!!.. ;)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
THANK GOD I AM GREEK
« Page 2 of 5 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]

since 2 Apr 2005

Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free


This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards
Get Your Own Free Message Boards & Free Forums!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Notice | FTC Disclosure | Report Abuse | Mobile