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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #31 on Jul 11, 2005, 2:09am »
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Groves and Thorne did not debunk anything to do with Badarians or Naqadans.
Who ever said they did? Stay out of threads with your silly comments.
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They only compared various North African remains with European Cro-Magnons and some Nubian remains from Sudan.
As well as Tushka remains which are located in Upper Egypt. my citation of Groves and Thorne had nothing to do with Badarians and Naqadans, it had a whole lot to do with Strouhal's frivolous claim that Nubians were originally Europoid and were flooded with southern groups. Thats specific hypothesis was addressed in the Groves and Thorne study.
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #32 on Jul 11, 2005, 1:52pm »
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Ah the Left-nut hero decided to post more nonsense against me
Left-nut hero? seriously dude........ wow...
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I have no respect for those who have no respect for logic,so think it over chum!
Chum? logic?................................. ROFL! Dude stop it already!! Ad-hominem attacks are quite illogical, give a reason for your disagreements not biased crapitude.
*watches as crimsongaurd gears up his tired keyboard*
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #34 on Jul 11, 2005, 3:04pm »
<< have never seen so many blacks use the words "ad-hominem" and "strawman" in my life.>>
*He probably copied and pasted it from some white guy that used it on him on some other site in the resent past.
Actually Left-Nut hero ,you started the Ad Hominem attack on me,when you decided to poke your ugly head into this topic for no other reason then to be a fool.You created no rebuttle,let alone addressing what I said...no you went straight to character attacking me,which is Ad-Hominem.
Their was nothing Ad-hominem in my post, you clown....I simply abused you,in retaliation to your ignorant ranting ,which you rightly deserved!
' Remember upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all.' -Alexander the Great
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #35 on Jul 11, 2005, 3:19pm »
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<< have never seen so many blacks use the words "ad-hominem" and "strawman" in my life.>>
*He probably copied and pasted it from some white guy that used it on him on some other site in the resent past.
Actually Left-Nut hero ,you started the Ad Hominem attack on me,when you decided to poke your ugly head into this topic for no other reason then to be a fool.You created no rebuttle,let alone addressing what I said...no you went straight to character attacking me,which is Ad-Hominem.
Their was nothing Ad-hominem in my post, you clown....I simply abused you,in retaliation to your ignorant ranting ,which you rightly deserved!
Now you go run home and cry to momma!!!
Everything you say is an ad-hominem, how many times have you actually argued with facts and evidence? You only accuse people of being Afrocentrists and racist; look at the man in the mirror.
Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #36 on Jul 11, 2005, 3:47pm »
<<Everything you say is an ad-hominem, how many times have you actually argued with facts and evidence? You only accuse people of being Afrocentrists and racist; look at the man in the mirror. >>
Everything you say is complete stupidity and outright fabrications combined with exaggerations and distortions of the truth galore...You never present true evidence. What you do is, present half truths,and partial/selected/edited evidence and try to pass it off as the "full Picture" .
Your a deceiver Afro-Bass,and one that cannot even add before he blurts out numbers(that had to be the funniiest moment with your insanity)!
Look Dienekes and Racial Reality tore you a new one, every time you tried presenting "so-called" evidence with some article or just tried talking Intelligent... I laugh at you!
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #37 on Jul 11, 2005, 4:06pm »
CG, you are becoming my most favourite poster in here due to the way you deal with Bass and his bull. You summed him up exactly right, but let's not also forget that he's a plagiariser, a literary pirate. He steals ideas, peoples' posts, peoples words, peoples' ideas, peoples ancestries ...you know how he goes...another exalt coming your way!!
I'm truly sorry man's dominion Has broken Nature's social union, An justifies that ill opinion, Which makes thee startle At me, thy poor, earth-born companion, An fellow mortal!
Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #38 on Jul 11, 2005, 5:18pm »
Shame on you, CrimsonGuard. This is the same kind of thinking that denies the American Indian his true place. It's indisputable that predynastic Americans were mongoloid. Furthermore, we see not only the racial continuity in people like Willie Nelson but also the cultural continuity in modern Americans' obsession with products of the tobacco and coca plants and the habit of going on the warpath.
See? Now you know why America made it to the moon before anyone else.
DP: Egyptians aren't negroids. CB: 'Negroid' isn't a scientific term, per everyone on my mailing list. Ethiopians are black Africans. DP: 'Black African' isn't anthropological. 'Negroid' is only out of scientific fashion. However, 'black African' can be a social group. CB: Damn you, Pontikos!
<Feces are thrown. Cuts are pasted. End of thread.>
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #39 on Jul 11, 2005, 6:04pm »
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Egypt is an African civilization. No doubt about it in my mind.
It is easy to see why this subject makes so many people uncomfortable... By admitting that Egypt was African, they would be acknowleging that the people they have looked down on for their entire lives are the same ones responsible for civilization itself - art, science, writing, language, the objects and ideas that make up the world we live in are built upon Egyptian, and thus African foundatitons...
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #41 on Jul 11, 2005, 6:44pm »
The whole 'Western civilization built upon Egyptian/African foundation' thing is a load of rhetorical nonsense. Egyptian culture is noticeably alien to Europeans, which is one of the reasons for it being so fascinating. A Westerner can look at ancient Greece and Rome and see a plethora of shared concepts - a foundation in the true sense of the word. Technology, and even a few theoretical concepts, cherry-picked from a wholly different civilization do not constitute a 'foundation'.
Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #42 on Jul 11, 2005, 6:45pm »
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the people they have looked down on for their entire lives are the same ones responsible for civilization itself - art, science, writing, language, the objects and ideas that make up the world we live in are built upon Egyptian, and thus African foundatitons...
People of European descent on average don't look down to anyone because of their race, racists are a minority. No one in the world except some fanatic on this board give such weight to ancient Egypt. 99% of Europeans if told that ancient Egyptians were entirely and exclusively Congolese will go "ah", and that's it. Nothing, let alone European culture and history, is "built upon Egyptians" except the endless and pointless discussions about their racial make up that go on on race forums.
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #43 on Jul 11, 2005, 6:49pm »
I agree, the importance of Egypt is way overstated. In fact, Egypt was deemed a civilization not even worthy of study before the Napoleonic era when Egyptomania came about. They were sort of more myth than reality, much like the Hittites.
I think European civilization owes more to the Near East than Africa, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: 'Is studying Egypt in its African context "Afr « Reply #44 on Jul 11, 2005, 6:49pm »
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I simply abused
Um no, you just....... did'nt.
Think about it crimsonguard. Really I'm just toying with you, I get a kick out of it. It's fun You can call me corny names like "left-nut hero" or whatever, all the while completely avoiding my original statement, that is shomarka keita not more objective than you are? Did you deny it? Nope......
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Go cry home to momma!!
hilarious crimsonguard, hilarious Whats funny is that your probably serious about it
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Whats funny is that your probably serious about it