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[poll] PollPoll Question: Which is the Greatest Ancient Civilisation
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Etruscans and Romans[***] (5 votes, 9.2%)
Minoan and Greek[***********] (16 votes, 29.6%)
Persia[ ] (1 vote, 1.8%)
Egypt[***] (5 votes, 9.2%)
China[*****] (7 votes, 12.9%)
Mesopotamia[*******] (10 votes, 18.5%)
Mesoamerica and South America-Maya,Aztec,Inca[**] (4 votes, 7.4%)
Kush, Meroe, and Nubia[****] (6 votes, 11.1%)

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Buddyryvall
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« Thread Started on Mar 27, 2005, 3:11am »

Which ancient Civilisations contributed most to the modern world, Which were the top 3 Greatest Ancient Civilisations? ???
note: I could not fit in all the ancient civilisations, if I left any out say them anyway.
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« Reply #1 on Mar 27, 2005, 5:11am »

Top 3 greatest for me:

1.) Mesopotamia
2.) Egypt
3.) Greece
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« Reply #2 on Mar 27, 2005, 12:55pm »

Oh, you want us to please you by saying "Ancient Greece"?

How clever. ;D ;D ;D

I'd say:
1. Ancient Eskimoia
2. Ancient Bushman Empire
3. Ancient Dagobah
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« Reply #3 on Mar 27, 2005, 4:46pm »


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Top 3 greatest for me:

1.) Mesopotamia
2.) Egypt
3.) Greece


Agreed.
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« Reply #4 on Mar 27, 2005, 10:23pm »


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Oh, you want us to please you by saying "Ancient Greece"?

How clever. ;D ;D ;D

I'd say:
1. Ancient Eskimoia
2. Ancient Bushman Empire
3. Ancient Dagobah


Man, wtf are talking about, I've put over 8 Ancient Civilisations there and asked which are the top 3 greatest, if you think Ancient Greece was great than say it, or better yet why dont you put your own countrys ancient civilisation, oh thats right you dont have any LOL ;) ;)

BTW my top 3 were Greece, Rome and Egypt
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« Reply #5 on Mar 27, 2005, 10:25pm »

1. Egypt
2. Greece
3. China
3. Mesopotamia


Actually, I think Mesopotamia would make a better third. Even though Chinese civ was spectacular it came about much later than Mesopotamia or Egypt, so it's a little less impressive. I guess they're tied for 3rd.
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« Reply #6 on Mar 27, 2005, 10:39pm »


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Man, wtf are talking about, I've put over 8 Ancient Civilisations there and asked which are the top 3 greatest, if you think Ancient Greece was great than say it, or better yet why dont you put your own countrys ancient civilisation, oh thats right you dont have any LOL ;) ;)

BTW my top 3 were Greece, Rome and Egypt
Don't cry, little boy. ;D
Wash your teeth, and go to bed.

Hmm. Okay, new list.

1. Ottoman Empire
2. Persian Empire
3. Any Empire that has invaded you.

(Ooh, that was mean. ;D ;D)
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« Reply #7 on Mar 27, 2005, 10:48pm »


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Don't cry, little boy. ;D
Wash your teeth, and go to bed.

Hmm. Okay, new list.

1. Ottoman Empire
2. Persian Empire
3. Any Empire that invaded you. ;D ;D


LOL, the Ottoman empire wasn't Ancient, but we still kicked their asses out of Greece ;)
The Pesian empire also got their asses kicked by Greeks
Listen pichko, theres no need to take cheap shots at Greece just because your country has no history Im sure your ancient people made lovely mud huts ;) ;)
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« Reply #8 on Mar 27, 2005, 11:07pm »


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Listen pichko, theres no need to take cheap shots at Greece just because your country has no history Im sure your ancient people made lovely mud huts


LOL, what country is kabbel from?


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Which ancient Civilisations contributed most to the modern world, Which were the top 3 Greatest Ancient Civilisations?



Hmmmm, probably greece and rome, third persia. Nubia actually did'nt have a bad run either. Out of all of those it was probably the longest lasting consecutively. From about 3100 b.c. to 1500, it out-beat egypt in that arena.

Nubia was one of those civilizations that kept to themselves, (like china) and did'nt really have any conquering ambitions, (besides 80 year rule of egypt). I wonder how world history would have played out differently had the nubians decided they wanted to start laying the smack down on other nations and starting empires just for the hell of it like the greeks or persians.

LOL a world ruled by "black" people in alternate history? It would make a fascinating novel.


Actually I know of one such novel, called "Zulu Heart":http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0446611956/qid=1111983160/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-7052733-2123816?v =glance&s=books&n=507846..... Interesting book
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« Reply #9 on Mar 28, 2005, 12:17am »


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Hmmmm, probably greece and rome, third persia. Nubia actually did'nt have a bad run either. Out of all of those it was probably the longest lasting consecutively. From about 3100 b.c. to 1500, it out-beat egypt in that arena.






What are you talking about? Nubia never outdid Egypt in anything. Nubia was the Puerto Rico to Egypt's USA. That's the only analogy I can think of. Egypt had complete dominion over Nubia, Nubia was just a vassal of Egypt. Most of the country's gold went into Egyptian coffers. Keep in mind that Lower Nubia (Aswan to Abu Simbel) is now a part of Egypt, and was a basic part of Egypt for thousands of years. Nubian culture is basically an offshoot of the culture it adopted from Egyptian invaders. Nubia is not impressive by any stretch of the imagination.
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« Reply #10 on Mar 28, 2005, 12:37am »

Just like to know why Spiro has to swear in Slavic all the time and if it is allowed on this site.
The graetest ancient civilisations were Sumer Egypt and China,with apologies to the Olmecs.
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« Reply #11 on Mar 28, 2005, 7:28am »

Why not include the civilisation we're living in right now? An age when man can not only fly to other countries, but also to outer-space. An age when man can recreate life, though not in the most ethical manner, an age when someone can dream a building and it can be created, an age where mathematics allows us to do what we're doing right now. We're living in the greatest civlisation of all time and it all comes from the industrial revolution!
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« Reply #12 on Mar 28, 2005, 9:28am »


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What are you talking about? Nubia never outdid Egypt in anything. Nubia was the Puerto Rico to Egypt's USA. That's the only analogy I can think of. Egypt had complete dominion over Nubia, Nubia was just a vassal of Egypt. Most of the country's gold went into Egyptian coffers. Keep in mind that Lower Nubia (Aswan to Abu Simbel) is now a part of Egypt, and was a basic part of Egypt for thousands of years. Nubian culture is basically an offshoot of the culture it adopted from Egyptian invaders. Nubia is not impressive by any stretch of the imagination.


I know I've posted this before but....Nubia was not just some offshoot carbon copy of Egypt, have you studied Nubian history other than knowing that Nubia was occupied by Egypt? Egypt also occupied Palestine and its adjacent areas but you say Egypt and Caanan had 'good' relations when in reality their relationship to Egypt was the same as Nubia's at various points in history. Most of Nubia's relationship to Egypt was one of trade, not one of submissive vassals.

Prehistoric Nubia

7000 B.C.-3100 B.C.

Near modern-day Khartoum is the oldest known record of settled African civilization. This civilization, called Khartoum Mesolithic culture (c 7000 B.C.), is noted for its settled way of life and pottery production that seemingly preceded agriculture, unlike development in early Near Eastern cultures. These early Nubians subsisted on hunting and fishing, but their remarkably sophisticated ceramics are among the oldest known. Fashioned from low-fired Nile mud and decorated with ompressed dots and wavy lines, this pottery dispersed throughout the African continent and remained unchanged for thousands of years. The earliest evidence from Egyptian civilization shows strong affinity with Khartoum Mesolithic (c. 6000 B.C.). Later (c. 4000-3500 B.C.) Predynastic Upper Egyptian and Lower Nubian materials are strikingly similar. Human figurines, cosmetic palettes, and black-topped red pottery were common to both cultures.


The A-Group
3100 B.C.-2800 B.C.

A-Group, Lower Nubia's earliest civilization, appeared around 3100 B.C., immediately preceding Egypt's unification. Although finely painted ceramics imitating basketry and a spectacular mace head with a gold handle were excavated from A-Group graves, this civilization was dismissed as a chiefdom of nomadic cattle herders.


Qustul's royal burial ground was excavated by the University of Chicago's expedition in the 1960s, and the large, rich graves of local kings were revealed. These contained Egyptian imports as well as local artifacts. Despite theories that Qustul's kingdom preceded the early Egyptian proto-states found at Nubt-Naqada and Nekhen-Hierakonpolis, all these states probably developed simultaneously, some with contacts with Syria Amuq Valley Mesopotamian civilization.


An Outline of Nubian History
Peter Lacovara
Assistant Curator of Egyptian,
Nubian and Near Eastern Art
Museum of Fine Arts, Boston

Cited from Egypt in Africa
Theodore Celenko
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« Reply #13 on Mar 28, 2005, 1:19pm »

hahaha......a relationship of trade? "trade"? Is that the PC term for tribute nowadays?
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1. Egypt
2. Greece
3. China
3. Mesopotamia


Actually, I think Mesopotamia would make a better third. Even though Chinese civ was spectacular it came about much later than Mesopotamia or Egypt, so it's a little less impressive. I guess they're tied for 3rd.

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/china.htm
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